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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

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Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New Jersey Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

9 Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Chenango, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, Wyoming.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3135 on: March 13, 2018, 11:18:40 PM »
Very difficult to get it dismissed.  You can delay the hearing and hope the cop is reassigned and won't show at the hearing, but not likely.  Or you can pay a traffic ticket lawyer and perhaps he'll luck out and be able to do something.
1 cell phone ticket probably won't be devastating on your insurance without any other accidents or moving violations.
Thanks. Are you saying without a lawyer there is no use in going to the hearing?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3136 on: March 13, 2018, 11:48:27 PM »
Thanks. Are you saying without a lawyer there is no use in going to the hearing?
I went once and watched all the cases ahead of me. The judge was empowered to find a defendant guilty or not guilty.  There was no compromise available. So if you have no reason or proof that you're not guilty of what the cop charges, I don't think you have a chance of getting off.  Lawyers seemed to be able to make a deal before they got into the hearing room.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3137 on: March 14, 2018, 03:11:41 AM »
If u have letís say pa license it will Show up license ? Insurance will c?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3138 on: March 14, 2018, 09:28:33 AM »
If u have letís say pa license it will Show up license ? Insurance will c?
from https://www.carinsurance.com/Articles/out-of-state-speeding-tickets-follow-you-home.aspx
Then there are a few states that have unique laws. If you're a New York resident who received a minor traffic ticket in Quebec or Ontario, Canada, New York will record it and assess you points. But if you receive the ticket within the country, it will not go on your record. New Jersey adds two points for all out-of-state traffic convictions, even if your points for the violation would have been different in-state.

Also: Auto insurance companies don't care where you received a traffic ticket. To them, a conviction in any state makes you a riskier driver. However, how traffic offenses are rated varies by insurer and state.

from https://dmv.ny.gov/tickets-received-another-state

What happens if I get a traffic ticket in another state?

Your NYS Driver License will be suspended if you fail to answer a ticket for a moving violation in any state except Alaska, California, Michigan, Montana, Oregon or Wisconsin. Your license will remain suspended until you answer the ticket. Likewise, drivers from any state, except those from the six states listed above, will have their driver licenses suspended in their own state for failure to answer a moving violation in New York State.

The New York State DMV does not record out-of-state convictions of moving traffic violations of New York State non-commercial licensed drivers, except for traffic offenses committed in the provinces of Ontario and Quebec in Canada.







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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3139 on: March 14, 2018, 03:14:54 PM »
Any advice?

On purim going to my inlaws I had a green light and made a left turn on 39th and 4th in brooklyn, I never knew you not alowd to make a left from 10 to 7, and when you have a green light the sign on the side of the road is not visible to a driver unless theres a red light or a stop sign.

Is there a way to write a letter to the judge, I know by parking tickets  you could submit a letter
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3140 on: March 14, 2018, 03:59:12 PM »
I got a ticket (on my NY driver's license) for expired inspection far up North in NY (don't remember the town off hand) not far from Canada, it was a court summons. I called up the court and they told me that I must show up and nothing can be done about it. Since I'd moved to Lakewood I figured this would be a good opportunity to change my driver's license to NJ, I had changed it before my court date (which I decided to skip). I just received a letter in the mail from NY DMV saying that if I don't show up to court they'll suspend my license.

My question is, will it have any bearing on my NJ license?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3141 on: March 14, 2018, 04:47:01 PM »
Any advice?

Is there a way to write a letter to the judge, I know by parking tickets  you could submit a letter
This is a "hearing by mail".  I don't think a moving violation has that option.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3142 on: March 14, 2018, 04:48:24 PM »
I just received a letter in the mail from NY DMV saying that if I don't show up to court they'll suspend my license.

My question is, will it have any bearing on my NJ license?
Google it.  If a NY license is suspended outside NY, it may be suspended by NYS.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3143 on: March 15, 2018, 11:20:23 AM »
I received 3 moving violations on the Palisades in the Town of Ramapo.

Pkway/Tway Rules and Regs 4155H (Display Advertising Sign - Pkwy Reg-9)
NYS V&TL 4021 (No Distinctive Front Plate)
NYS V&TL 306B (Uninspected Motor Vehicle)

So the story is as follows, I was driving a company vehicle that is not a commercial vehicle, but is wrapped in company name and phone number. My front license plate must've fallen off during the winter storm last week, I didn't even realize it was missing.

Do any of these violations carry points? If I go myself, is it possible to get one or two of them dismissed?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3144 on: March 15, 2018, 11:49:04 AM »
I received 3 moving violations on the Palisades in the Town of Ramapo.

Pkway/Tway Rules and Regs 4155H (Display Advertising Sign - Pkwy Reg-9)
NYS V&TL 4021 (No Distinctive Front Plate)
NYS V&TL 306B (Uninspected Motor Vehicle)

So the story is as follows, I was driving a company vehicle that is not a commercial vehicle, but is wrapped in company name and phone number. My front license plate must've fallen off during the winter storm last week, I didn't even realize it was missing.

Do any of these violations carry points? If I go myself, is it possible to get one or two of them dismissed?
In NYC, broken tail lights have the rule that if you get it repaired by the next day you can mail in the proof or go show it to your local precinct and the violation will be dismissed.  Maybe missing plates have the same rule and that if you go to the DMV to get a replacement plate by the end of the next day, it will be dismissed. 
Missed inspection I don't think you can do a thing about - but maybe an immediate inspection will work like the tail light cited above.
I don't get the first violation.  Your vehicle is not allowed to be wrapped in signage?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3145 on: March 15, 2018, 11:55:34 AM »
In NYC, broken tail lights have the rule that if you get it repaired by the next day you can mail in the proof or go show it to your local precinct and the violation will be dismissed.  Maybe missing plates have the same rule and that if you go to the DMV to get a replacement plate by the end of the next day, it will be dismissed. 
Missed inspection I don't think you can do a thing about - but maybe an immediate inspection will work like the tail light cited above.
I don't get the first violation.  Your vehicle is not allowed to be wrapped in signage?
I was thinking of going today and getting inspection done like you mentioned.

Apparently you're not allowed to drive on Parkways if your vehicle has signage. Similar to trucks not allowed on Parkways.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3146 on: March 15, 2018, 12:03:32 PM »
I was thinking of going today and getting inspection done like you mentioned.

Apparently you're not allowed to drive on Parkways if your vehicle has signage. Similar to trucks not allowed on Parkways.
Now at least I understand the violation.
I don't know how the system works in Ramapo.  In NYC, there is no 'plea bargain' available. So if you can't prove you didn't do something, or have a really good reason it was a mistake, you're found guilty and you're stuck.  No bargaining down to a lesser offense. 
I don't know how it works in Ramapo.  If you can bargain, you can explain that you didn't know a non-commercial vehicle with signage can't go on the Parkway and maybe get a lower fine or something.  Same with the other violations, you'd show that you remedied them.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3147 on: March 15, 2018, 12:29:38 PM »
I received 3 moving violations on the Palisades in the Town of Ramapo.

Pkway/Tway Rules and Regs 4155H (Display Advertising Sign - Pkwy Reg-9)
NYS V&TL 4021 (No Distinctive Front Plate)
NYS V&TL 306B (Uninspected Motor Vehicle)

So the story is as follows, I was driving a company vehicle that is not a commercial vehicle, but is wrapped in company name and phone number. My front license plate must've fallen off during the winter storm last week, I didn't even realize it was missing.

Do any of these violations carry points? If I go myself, is it possible to get one or two of them dismissed?
Don't know if it has points or not, and not sure how they'll process with these tickets,
IME it seemed to be very easy going Court, had a speeding ticket along with careless driving, the prosecutor offered me a plea, judge asked me my driving record, and approved it.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3148 on: March 15, 2018, 12:30:38 PM »
Don't know if it has points or not, and not sure how they'll process with these tickets,
IME it seemed to be very easy going Court, had a speeding ticket along with careless driving, the prosecutor offered me a plea, judge asked me my driving record, and approved it.
Which jurisdiction? No pleas allowed in NYC.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3149 on: March 15, 2018, 01:05:35 PM »
Which jurisdiction? No pleas allowed in NYC.
My bad, thought he said NJ.
I was referring to NJ Palisades.