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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

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Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New Jersey Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10 Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, or the advice of an attorney.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3150 on: March 15, 2018, 01:40:39 PM »
Google it.  If a NY license is suspended outside NY, it may be suspended by NYS.
Question is, if they suspend my NY license will it be visible if I'm pulled over with my NJ license (keep in mind that NJ license was made way before NY suspension)?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3151 on: March 15, 2018, 02:23:47 PM »


Now at least I understand the violation.
I don't know how the system works in Ramapo.  In NYC, there is no 'plea bargain' available. So if you can't prove you didn't do something, or have a really good reason it was a mistake, you're found guilty and you're stuck.  No bargaining down to a lesser offense. 
I don't know how it works in Ramapo.  If you can bargain, you can explain that you didn't know a non-commercial vehicle with signage can't go on the Parkway and maybe get a lower fine or something.  Same with the other violations, you'd show that you remedied them.
Yes, you can plead in Ramapo. Unfortunately, it's not my first time there for court.

I was wondering if there are point associated with these violations. Additionally, I've never received multiple violations from one traffic stop. I was therefore asking if there's a chance they'll dismiss 1 if I plead guilty to the other 2 or something like that.



My bad, thought he said NJ.
I was referring to NJ Palisades.

I appreciate you trying to help. If you would read my post, I'm asking about Ramapo in NY.

Being vague and saying "they're an easy going court" will only help if you had experience in that specific court. You can't say blatant statements like that referring to a different court.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3152 on: March 15, 2018, 03:13:23 PM »
Yes, you can plead in Ramapo. Unfortunately, it's not my first time there for court.

I was wondering if there are point associated with these violations. Additionally, I've never received multiple violations from one traffic stop. I was therefore asking if there's a chance they'll dismiss 1 if I plead guilty to the other 2 or something like that.
According to the the NYS DMV website Points are not assigned.....
for these infractions.
Since Ramapo allows deals, try using the argument that you got the plate replaced and the vehicle inspected and that you didn't know a non-commercial vehicle with signage can't go on the Parkway.
Good luck.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3153 on: March 15, 2018, 06:33:33 PM »
Just got a ticket for blocking the box in NYC. Officer didn't ask for license, there's no name on the ticket. It also says on the ticket that the driver went into the intersection without there being room on the other side and there was no sign of intent or signal from the driver that he was making a turn. This is not true. I was signaling to make a right turn, which is where it was backed up. The street ahead of me was all clear.

What are my options? It does say on the back of the ticket that you could plead not guilty online and submit evidence.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3154 on: March 15, 2018, 09:43:16 PM »

What are my options? It does say on the back of the ticket that you could plead not guilty online and submit evidence.
Do you have any evidence?  Most of the time it's your word against the word of a policeman.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3155 on: March 16, 2018, 12:05:27 AM »
Do you have any evidence?  Most of the time it's your word against the word of a policeman.
Dashcam time
My dash cam happened to stop working today.... I do have a screenshot of my gps showing that I came from that street and was making a right turn.

What about the fact that there's no name on the ticket. Does that matter? I mean its a moving violation, no? Shouldn't there be an operator?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3156 on: March 16, 2018, 12:10:30 AM »


What about the fact that there's no name on the ticket. Does that matter? I mean its a moving violation, no? Shouldn't there be an operator?
Totally baffles me.  I don't understand that point.
Check that ticket # on line.  I wonder if the cop added info later.  Did he ask for your license and registration?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3157 on: March 16, 2018, 12:17:21 AM »
Nope. Just my name. I just gave him my first (nick)name.

The whole thing was 30 seconds. It was near the Holland tunnel. They obviously hang out there waiting to give tickets. There was two other cars who got tickets at the same time.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3158 on: March 16, 2018, 12:18:57 AM »
What identifyer did it have?  Just your plate #?


If it has no personal information associated with it, it certainly can't have points.
Strange.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3159 on: March 16, 2018, 12:35:31 AM »
What identifyer did it have?  Just your plate #?


If it has no personal information associated with it, it certainly can't have points.
Strange.
Yeah, just the plate number.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3160 on: March 16, 2018, 12:41:50 AM »
It may take time to get into the system, but keep checking for it.  See if any additional info has been added.  Certainly worth fighting.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3161 on: March 16, 2018, 12:51:34 AM »
Just got a ticket for blocking the box in NYC. Officer didn't ask for license, there's no name on the ticket. It also says on the ticket that the driver went into the intersection without there being room on the other side and there was no sign of intent or signal from the driver that he was making a turn. This is not true. I was signaling to make a right turn, which is where it was backed up. The street ahead of me was all clear. What are my options? It does say on the back of the ticket that you could plead not guilty online and submit evidence.

What color ticket? Orange, Yellow, or Pink? Sounds like a orange parking ticket.

Question is, if they suspend my NY license will it be visible if I'm pulled over with my NJ license (keep in mind that NJ license was made way before NY suspension)?

If you hold a NJ license, and you get suspended in NY, NJ will suspend you as well.

I received 3 moving violations on the Palisades in the Town of Ramapo.

Pkway/Tway Rules and Regs 4155H (Display Advertising Sign - Pkwy Reg-9)
NYS V&TL 4021 (No Distinctive Front Plate)
NYS V&TL 306B (Uninspected Motor Vehicle)

So the story is as follows, I was driving a company vehicle that is not a commercial vehicle, but is wrapped in company name and phone number. My front license plate must've fallen off during the winter storm last week, I didn't even realize it was missing.

Do any of these violations carry points? If I go myself, is it possible to get one or two of them dismissed?

The last two violations don't carry points, but they do affect your driving record. Similar to an adult seat belt that doesn't carry points but does affect your record and insurance. The first violation I am not as familiar with, because its a pkwy not a vtl. Non of these tickets are "fit it tickets" and they cannot be dismissed on proof of correction.

You can probably get a plea deal yourself, for non moving violations. If you can't get a deal for non moving violations you can ask for an adjournment to come back with an attorney.

I got a ticket (on my NY driver's license) for expired inspection far up North in NY (don't remember the town off hand) not far from Canada, it was a court summons. I called up the court and they told me that I must show up and nothing can be done about it. Since I'd moved to Lakewood I figured this would be a good opportunity to change my driver's license to NJ, I had changed it before my court date (which I decided to skip). I just received a letter in the mail from NY DMV saying that if I don't show up to court they'll suspend my license.

My question is, will it have any bearing on my NJ license?

There is a big difference between an expired registration and suspended registration. One is a minor traffic infraction, the other is an unspecified misdemeanor. Either way, if you ignore the ticket your NY driving privileges will be suspended, and NJ will eventually suspend your NJ license.

If u have letís say pa license it will Show up license ? Insurance will c?
NY suspensions are reported to PA. Most NY violations do not affect PA records.

Got a ticket for using a mobile phone in Brooklyn yesterday  >:(. I was eating a Larabar and the cop thought it was a cell phone. He asked to see my call history which I showed him (and it didn't show any calls) and he then proceeded to issue the ticket. Seems like they are doing a serious crackdown in Brooklyn these days as I know a few other people who also got mobile phone tickets and I see cars being pulled over often (I'm in Crown Heights).

This is my first "moving violation" (had my license for 8 years). What are my chances of getting it dismissed? I'd rather not have to pay for a lawyer... Any suggestions are appreciated.

Cell phones have gotten easier to fight in Brooklyn. See People v. Ferguson, Slip Op. 51097(U) (App Term, 9th & 10th Jud Dists, 2017). (A defendant can rebut the presumption that they are using a portable electronic device when they testify.)

Its 5 out of 11 points. Don't be fooled by the $138 fine, its a big ticket.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3162 on: March 16, 2018, 01:04:27 AM »
Hirshthg,
Glad you came by.
A few comments by you and there are clear answers.
While you were gone, I've been fumfering around and making a hash of it.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3163 on: March 16, 2018, 10:22:52 AM »
If you hold a NJ license, and you get suspended in NY, NJ will suspend you as well.

There is a big difference between an expired registration and suspended registration. One is a minor traffic infraction, the other is an unspecified misdemeanor. Either way, if you ignore the ticket your NY driving privileges will be suspended, and NJ will eventually suspend your NJ license.
Thanks!!!

So do I have any options other than traveling 5 hours each way to go to court?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3164 on: March 16, 2018, 11:27:54 AM »
What color ticket? Orange, Yellow, or Pink? Sounds like a orange parking ticket.

Thanks for the reply!

Yes, it was orange. But how could it be a parking ticket if it says that the officer observed the vehicle entering the intersection when there wasn't room on the other side etc?
What are my options?