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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

***Join the push to change the system in NYC. https://www.change.org/p/new-york-change-traffic-courts-in-new-york-city-nyc-tvb ***

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New Jersey Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

9 Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Chenango, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, or the advice of an attorney.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3300 on: January 07, 2019, 09:18:58 PM »

Not sure the answer, but they can issue a ticket based on your admission. Chances are if you go to court, the case/ticket will be dismissed as they cops rarely show up. My lawyer always told me never to tell them what happened if you are at all at fault. I just tell them they can talk to my lawyer.

I know, I know, I messed up by saying anything the fender bender was such a non issue and he was being so nice about it. After going to his car to file a report, he comes back with the report and a ticket. At that point it would've been useless to argue. I couldn't imagine he would give me a ticket in a million years. I also read on a Florida traffic law website that they can't use your admission as evidence but I'm not sure how that would apply.

If I was in FL I would certainly and confidently fight it, but I'm in NY. I'll have to pay a lawyer because the officer made up allegations.

What state are you from? Talk to a lawyer from your home state, and a FL lawyer.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3301 on: January 07, 2019, 09:34:31 PM »
At the end of the day, does it make a difference that they attempt to transfer?
Does not matter for a NY license.

I know, I know, I messed up by saying anything the fender bender was such a non issue and he was being so nice about it. After going to his car to file a report, he comes back with the report and a ticket. At that point it would've been useless to argue. I couldn't imagine he would give me a ticket in a million years. I also read on a Florida traffic law website that they can't use your admission as evidence but I'm not sure how that would apply.

Never talk to the officer. If he has enough to charge, he will. You can always explain your story later.

I skeptical that a confession cannot be used, in any state. 

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3302 on: January 07, 2019, 09:35:53 PM »

I skeptical that a confession cannot be used, in any state.

All I said was that there was a fender bender.
Can he use that as evidence that I drove without due care? They're could've been a bird flying into my window.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3303 on: January 08, 2019, 02:11:41 AM »
Just pay the tickets. His NY record should not be affected.

And not bother to fight the $180 ticket for the registration he had, just took him a minute to find?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3304 on: January 08, 2019, 09:02:15 AM »
At the end of the day, does it make a difference that they attempt to transfer?
supposedly not
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« Reply #3305 on: January 08, 2019, 12:54:26 PM »
And not bother to fight the $180 ticket for the registration he had, just took him a minute to find?

Just fly in from another state for several court appearances, spent 15 hours online learning the procedure and worry about whether you will lose anyway on a technicality? probably not worth $180.

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« Reply #3306 on: January 09, 2019, 11:10:54 PM »
Just fly in from another state for several court appearances, spent 15 hours online learning the procedure and worry about whether you will lose anyway on a technicality? probably not worth $180.
Is this worth a shot for the speeding ticket?

I believe your best defense is to ask the court for calibration records for the officer’s radar equipment. If the officer didn’t calibrate. Per manufacturer’s schedule, it should get dismissed…its a shot.

As a current police officer on the east coast. I would first like to say I take no offense to the word cop. I would fight the ticket there is a chance the officer might not show up. He might be sick, away on vacation or have other obligations (training, family,etc). If he does show up, ask when the radar gun was last certified, and did he calibrate it prior to using it. Most radar guns self calibrate and then you check it using a tuning fork. Radar guns not lidar pick up the biggest object on the road ask if it could have been the truck or SUV he clocked mistakenly Also the reason for the two officer car could be a field training officer riding with a rookie.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3307 on: January 09, 2019, 11:17:11 PM »
As a current police officer on the east coast. I would first like to say I take no offense to the word cop.
And a 2nd ticket for not providing the cop the registration within a minute as he was searching for it
I'm a little confused. you are a police officer? why would we think you take offense, if you use the word yourself?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3308 on: January 09, 2019, 11:21:23 PM »
I know, I know, I messed up by saying anything the fender bender was such a non issue and he was being so nice about it. After going to his car to file a report, he comes back with the report and a ticket. At that point it would've been useless to argue. I couldn't imagine he would give me a ticket in a million years. I also read on a Florida traffic law website that they can't use your admission as evidence but I'm not sure how that would apply.

If I was in FL I would certainly and confidently fight it, but I'm in NY. I'll have to pay a lawyer because the officer made up allegations.

Thanks
Don’t forget it can also raise insurance premiums. It might be worth paying a lawyer.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3309 on: January 09, 2019, 11:28:53 PM »
I'm a little confused. you are a police officer? why would we think you take offense, if you use the word yourself?
Lol, not an officer. Quoting a post. There was a debate whether a cop is an insult as oppose to calling him sir, officer or your very own creative name.   
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3310 on: January 10, 2019, 08:53:40 AM »
Just say officer
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3311 on: January 11, 2019, 03:49:50 AM »
Just fly in from another state for several court appearances, spent 15 hours online learning the procedure and worry about whether you will lose anyway on a technicality? probably not worth $180.
Do you know how it works with the ticket? Meaning will one get junk mail from lawyers or any of the sort in the mail? Or a copy of the ticket in the mail?
 A nj ticket. Thanks.

  Curios to know what one would expect, is it like an order online and all of the sudden I am bombarded with random catalogs and flyers?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3312 on: January 11, 2019, 09:53:09 AM »
Do you know how it works with the ticket? Meaning will one get junk mail from lawyers or any of the sort in the mail? Or a copy of the ticket in the mail?
 A nj ticket. Thanks.

  Curios to know what one would expect, is it like an order online and all of the sudden I am bombarded with random catalogs and flyers?

Moving violations are open public records, so it's typical to get letters from lawyers. Keep in mind, if lawyers can see it, so can insurance, even if your state DMV doesn't assess points on out of state violations.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3313 on: January 15, 2019, 03:12:54 PM »
I got convicted today of a cell phone use violation from 4 years ago,
Back then I had some points on my license, I don't know how many

The judge said my license will be revoked anytime soon, but I could appeal

Any reference or suggestions on this?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3314 on: January 15, 2019, 04:45:14 PM »
I got convicted today of a cell phone use violation from 4 years ago,
Back then I had some points on my license, I don't know how many

The judge said my license will be revoked anytime soon, but I could appeal

Any reference or suggestions on this?
Cop showed up after 4 years?