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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

If you have a specific question please use this template so that members will have enough information to answer.
The ticket was issued in this state:
The ticket is returnable to in this Town/Village/City:
I have a license from:
Commercial/Residential:
Ticket one:
Ticket two(ex):
Accident?:
I want information on "do it yourself":
I want information on "hire an attorney":
I want both:


Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

***Join the push to change the system in NYC. https://www.change.org/p/new-york-change-traffic-courts-in-new-york-city-nyc-tvb ***

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New Jersey Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10 Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, or the advice of an attorney.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3465 on: May 13, 2019, 01:12:29 PM »
The ticket was issued in this state: NY
The ticket is returnable to in this Town/Village/City: Perry 50 minutes from  Rochester and an hour from Buffalo
I have a license from: PA
Ticket one: Going 59 in 40 zone
Ticket two: My old NY license was suspended due to an insurance lapse 

I want information on "hire an attorney": can someone recommend an attorney for this.

Thank you!
Dw got a nasty ticket there the cop was nice only gave 20 over i got a local lawyer who was able to get the ticket dismissed  if she did some-kind of online course, ill check for the info
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3466 on: May 13, 2019, 02:59:52 PM »
Dw got a nasty ticket there the cop was nice only gave 20 over i got a local lawyer who was able to get the ticket dismissed  if she did some-kind of online course, ill check for the info
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3467 on: May 13, 2019, 08:34:59 PM »
Anyone have any advise for a ticket on i190 Buffalo going to Buffalo traffic violations
I was going 74 in 55 zone.
I have a Ontario license.
Should I higher a lawyer? Who? Or Plead guilty? Not guilty?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3468 on: May 13, 2019, 11:53:17 PM »
Anyone have any advise for a ticket on i190 Buffalo going to Buffalo traffic violations
I was going 74 in 55 zone.
I have a Ontario license.
Should I higher a lawyer? Who? Or Plead guilty? Not guilty?
Probably should get a lawyer. Perhaps lookup a local traffic lawyer in Buffalo. Ontario assigns points for New York tickets.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3469 on: May 14, 2019, 12:01:11 AM »
Probably should get a lawyer. Perhaps lookup a local traffic lawyer in Buffalo. Ontario assigns points for New York tickets.
One was charging 300 and one 500... Are those normal prices? Anyway to know who's good?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3470 on: May 14, 2019, 08:29:17 AM »
One was charging 300 and one 500... Are those normal prices? Anyway to know who's good?
500 sounds unreasonable if it is a local lawyer. In NYC (which is typically more expensive) you can find traffic lawyers for $250-300. The one for $300 might be in the right neighborhood but you could try another lawyer or two and/or ask for a better price.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3471 on: May 17, 2019, 11:52:38 AM »
If I accumulate over 11 points in an 18 month period, but
The last conviction (that beings me over 11 points) is 25 months after the first offense,
will my license be suspended?
For how long? How do I get it back?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3472 on: May 17, 2019, 11:54:05 AM »
If I accumulate over 11 points in an 18 month period, but
The last conviction (that beings me over 11 points) is 25 months after the first offense,
will my license be suspended?
For how long? How do I get it back?
Which MS method are you using to accumulate so much points?? :D

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3473 on: May 17, 2019, 01:25:39 PM »
The ticket was issued in this state: NY
The ticket is returnable to in this Town/Village/City: NYC
I have a license from: NY
Commercial/Residential: Res
Ticket one: speeding, 80 in 50 zone (belt pkwy)
PS. no radar or laser device mentioned on ticket.

I want information on "do it yourself": -
I want information on "hire an attorney": -
I want both: True

any advice would be highly appreciated.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3474 on: May 19, 2019, 01:57:49 AM »
The ticket was issued in this state: NY
The ticket is returnable to in this Town/Village/City: NYC
I have a license from: NY
Commercial/Residential: Res
Ticket one: speeding, 80 in 50 zone (belt pkwy)
PS. no radar or laser device mentioned on ticket.

I want information on "do it yourself": -
I want information on "hire an attorney": -
I want both: True

any advice would be highly appreciated.
TIA
I think that if there was no radar you can bring a witness to testify that they saw you driving at a certain speed and you weren't speeding.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3475 on: May 19, 2019, 03:57:09 PM »
I think that if there was no radar you can bring a witness to testify that they saw you driving at a certain speed and you weren't speeding.
Thanks much.
Is there a chance there was a radar but officer didn't note it in the ticket?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3476 on: May 19, 2019, 04:13:56 PM »
Thanks much.
Is there a chance there was a radar but officer didn't note it in the ticket?
Are you sure the ticket is supposed to say clocked by a radar gun?

https://www.quora.com/Can-a-police-officer-pull-you-over-for-speeding-by-just-mentally-guessing-your-speed-without-a-radar-gun
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3477 on: May 19, 2019, 04:17:16 PM »
Are you sure the ticket is supposed to say clocked by a radar gun?

https://www.quora.com/Can-a-police-officer-pull-you-over-for-speeding-by-just-mentally-guessing-your-speed-without-a-radar-gun
In the description  it usually says AFAIK.
And besides the officer in my case has not been there for 5 years...

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3478 on: May 19, 2019, 04:19:05 PM »
In the description  it usually says AFAIK.
And besides the officer in my case has not been there for 5 years...
nj would be the same as ny? Can check on a nj one.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3479 on: May 19, 2019, 04:20:29 PM »
nj would be the same as ny? Can check on a nj one.
Have no clue. It's my first offense b"h (that I got caught)