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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

***Join the push to change the system in NYC. https://www.change.org/p/new-york-change-traffic-courts-in-new-york-city-nyc-tvb ***

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New Jersey Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10 Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, or the advice of an attorney.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3630 on: May 04, 2020, 10:51:26 AM »
A bit of topic, I have a scheduled hearing today for a moving violation at the Brooklyn North TVB on Atlantic Ave. I did not get a rescheduling notice, naturally there’s no one to talk to on the phone and the website is barely a website.. so no information there either.

Any idea if they’re open?

I'm sure that they are closed. All Courts are closed except for essential proceedings. I would check the TVB website, my guess is that they have some statement saying that all proceedings are adjourned without date.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3631 on: May 04, 2020, 11:19:18 AM »
I'm sure that they are closed. All Courts are closed except for essential proceedings. I would check the TVB website, my guess is that they have some statement saying that all proceedings are adjourned without date.
I’m surprised they even bothered to put it on the website but there it is. Thanks.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3632 on: May 04, 2020, 11:25:31 AM »
I’m surprised they even bothered to put it on the website but there it is. Thanks.

Very welcome. Since all the dates for almost every conceivable state court proceeding have been stayed/adjourned and the limited proceedings are via teleconference, the city PVB would not make anyone come in.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3633 on: May 04, 2020, 11:51:08 AM »
I had a hearing scheduled in June for a 5 pt summons. I got a letter 2 weeks ago that it was dismissed.
They may be throwing out some cases to relieve the docket.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3634 on: May 04, 2020, 11:57:38 AM »
I had a hearing scheduled in June for a 5 pt summons. I got a letter 2 weeks ago that it was dismissed.
They may be throwing out some cases to relieve the docket.

I don't think they are tossing cases unless there are significant issues. Its possible that the officer passed away or something else that prevents them from moving forward. This is free money to the local municipality and they are starving for lack of tax revenue.

That sounds like Hashgacha Pratis.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3635 on: May 04, 2020, 01:33:20 PM »
A bit of topic, I have a scheduled hearing today for a moving violation at the Brooklyn North TVB on Atlantic Ave. I did not get a rescheduling notice, naturally there’s no one to talk to on the phone and the website is barely a website.. so no information there either.

Any idea if they’re open?
I called and message said that court dates will be postponed and I’ll receive date in the mail. I’m hoping to get
I had a hearing scheduled in June for a 5 pt summons. I got a letter 2 weeks ago that it was dismissed.
They may be throwing out some cases to relieve the docket.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3636 on: May 04, 2020, 07:10:51 PM »
A bit of topic, I have a scheduled hearing today for a moving violation at the Brooklyn North TVB on Atlantic Ave. I did not get a rescheduling notice, naturally there’s no one to talk to on the phone and the website is barely a website.. so no information there either.

Any idea if they’re open?
I checked on the website and they pushed my date for 3 months out. Don't expect any notice.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3637 on: June 05, 2020, 09:48:57 AM »
They should send you a notice, the TVB court are rescheduling every cases to next year. So you got lucky you new hearing date will be next year. They are very backed up. However the traffic tickets in NY state courts Suffolk and Nassau and villages are operating as of last week. They most likely need it to complement their deficit.
I used www.appwinit.com for my traffic ticket in NYC they keep me updated along the way. They have good lawyer and good prices.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3638 on: June 05, 2020, 09:56:01 AM »
I got a ticket from a NYS Trooper Upstate for going 54 in a 30 zone. The ticket does not show a $ amount for the fine. Does anyone know how much it will be if I plead guilty?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3639 on: June 05, 2020, 10:09:42 AM »
I got a ticket from a NYS Trooper Upstate for going 54 in a 30 zone. The ticket does not show a $ amount for the fine. Does anyone know how much it will be if I plead guilty?

You need to know the County and specific town that you got the ticket in to get that answer.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3640 on: June 07, 2020, 11:41:46 AM »
Speeding camera ticket in NYC, Bronx. 38mph in 25 (school zone).

I know about this camera, and I'm always really careful, so I find it unlikely I was doing 38 there, but I doubt there's a way to fight that.

Any validity to the following arguments:

There's currently no school at all? (ticket does say it's year round, though)

More concerning, and this is likely to be more general abuse on their part: Violation was 5/18, the ticket was issued 5/20, and recipients need to respond within 30 days of issue date, or receive additional fines. Envelope is postmarked 6/2. It's almost like they're trying to pressure people to not consider any options.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3641 on: June 08, 2020, 03:16:46 PM »
if given the choice between a "informal hearing" with a magistrate, which can be appealed to the court, or going straight to a formal hearing in front of a judge is there any sense in choosing the latter?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3642 on: June 14, 2020, 02:47:54 PM »
I received 2 tickets from the camera's on ocean parkway (Speeding) there are no points and they are 50$ each. But if there was no school why were they on? Would I win on those grounds?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3643 on: June 14, 2020, 06:00:56 PM »
Earlier in this thread, no too far back, someone informed us that 'school zone' was the legal pretext for setting up the cameras, but had no legal bearing on the tickets.
In other words, we're out of luck even if there's no school.


My son go tone on 14th ave at 48 st.  But the ticket says 14th and 49th st.  I'm  hoping that will get the ticket dismissed.  (The picture clearly shows him at 48th. )

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3644 on: June 23, 2020, 07:48:40 PM »
Got a ticket the officer wrote the wrong year of the car (2002 instead of 2020) any chance of fighting it?