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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #380 on: June 18, 2013, 09:33:49 AM »
Got it.

Any advice how to fight this ticket?
In NYC your chance of beating a moving violation without a lawyer is fairly close to zero.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #381 on: June 18, 2013, 09:36:58 AM »
Where can I take the 5 hour driving course in Brooklyn in less than 5 hours? And what's the cost?

This guy also gives courses in Brooklyn.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #382 on: June 18, 2013, 11:01:35 AM »
In NYC your chance of beating a moving violation without a lawyer is fairly close to zero.

And your chances with a lawyer is ...
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Bruh, where were you when my suitcase weighed it 51.50 pounds?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #383 on: June 18, 2013, 11:33:23 AM »
And your chances with a lawyer is ...

Much better than showing up in court alone.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #384 on: June 18, 2013, 01:31:36 PM »
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Judges in NYC usually don't care to much to listen what you say. Must of them just say guilty and that's it. If you have a different experience I want to know how you got a not guilty verdict.
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Bruh, where were you when my suitcase weighed it 51.50 pounds?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #385 on: June 18, 2013, 01:52:51 PM »
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Judges in NYC usually don't care to much to listen what you say. Must of them just say guilty and that's it. If you have a different experience I want to know how you got a not guilty verdict.

I've used a lawyer about 5 times for NYC traffic tickets over the past 8 years. I won 4 and lost 1. (There is no plea bargaining in NYC. It's either win or lose.)

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #386 on: June 18, 2013, 02:02:09 PM »
I've used a lawyer about 5 times for NYC traffic tickets over the past 8 years. I won 4 and lost 1. (There is no plea bargaining in NYC. It's either win or lose.)
Five moving violations in eight years? remind me to not get in a car with you
Life isn't about checking the boxes. Nobody cares.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #387 on: June 18, 2013, 03:05:15 PM »
Five moving violations in eight years? remind me to not get in a car with you

Don't get into a car with me.

There.

P.S. In America, as in (lhavdil) the Torah, it is called innocent until proven guilty. Absent a guilty verdict you maintain all presumptions of innocence as the next guy. Considering I was actually acquitted four times, it was affirmed by a judge that I was innocent of the charges. Hence, only one moving violation in eight years.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #388 on: June 18, 2013, 03:12:04 PM »
Five moving violations in eight years? remind me to not get in a car with you
You never drive over the speed limit? I think many people drive a lot at 80 MPH on the highway. the difference between getting 1 or two tickets in 8 years or 5 tickets in 8 years could just boil down to  how much you drive and how aware/alert you are to speed traps.

It also depends on what the tickets were for. For example, I was driving 40 in a 40 zone once, and for one block the speed limit dropped to 20 for a school zone. I was 'nabbed going 40'. A lot different than a ticket for going 95 on a highway.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #389 on: June 18, 2013, 03:16:15 PM »
You never drive over the speed limit? I think many people drive a lot at 80 MPH on the highway. the difference between getting 1 or two tickets in 8 years or 5 tickets in 8 years could just boil down to  how much you drive and how aware/alert you are to speed traps.

It also depends on what the tickets were for. For example, I was driving 40 in a 40 zone once, and for one block the speed limit dropped to 20 for a school zone. I was 'nabbed going 40'. A lot different than a ticket for going 95 on a highway.
Then again someone can argue that speeding in a School Zone is worse...

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #390 on: June 18, 2013, 03:19:12 PM »
Five moving violations in eight years? remind me to not get in a car with you
In my first 2 years of driving I got 10+.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #391 on: June 18, 2013, 03:23:12 PM »
In my first 2 years of driving I got 10+.
Five moving violations in eight years? remind me to not get in a car with you
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #392 on: June 18, 2013, 03:31:36 PM »
In NYC it's hard to go 80 on anything
Life isn't about checking the boxes. Nobody cares.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #393 on: June 18, 2013, 05:59:29 PM »
I've used a lawyer about 5 times for NYC traffic tickets over the past 8 years. I won 4 and lost 1. (There is no plea bargaining in NYC. It's either win or lose.)

Care to share which lawyer?

thanks

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #394 on: June 18, 2013, 07:45:50 PM »
Care to share which lawyer?

thanks
In the past I've used Terri Kalker. More recently I am using Shua Gelbstein.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #395 on: June 18, 2013, 07:55:07 PM »
In the past I've used Terri Kalker. More recently I am using Shua Gelbstein.
I use Terri too, Can I ask why you made the switch?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #396 on: June 18, 2013, 08:02:09 PM »
I use Terri too, Can I ask why you made the switch?
Terri's very good. It was a long while since I needed a lawyer after using Terri, and when asking for a recommendation Shua was given as being very good. (And a son of the NYS Department of Motor Vehicles Chief Judge.)
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #397 on: June 18, 2013, 08:21:04 PM »
In the past I've used Terri Kalker. More recently I am using Shua Gelbstein.

Can you give contact info? or PM me please?

Thank you!

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #398 on: June 19, 2013, 03:20:20 AM »
I've used a lawyer about 5 times for NYC traffic tickets over the past 8 years. I won 4 and lost 1. (There is no plea bargaining in NYC. It's either win or lose.)

In which court where these tickets?
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #399 on: June 19, 2013, 09:47:18 AM »
In which court where these tickets?

All in Brooklyn South (Coney Island).