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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3860 on: September 03, 2022, 09:28:39 PM »
How do I get it pushed off?
When you try to schedule a date to fight it, what date does it give you?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3861 on: September 03, 2022, 11:43:45 PM »
Got a ticket in New Jersey for careless driving. 2 points and $86. Does it pay to fight it or move on? I have a New York license.
Pay it and move on.
It always pays to fight. Your insurance rates will increase with points,  so push off the ticket for as long as you can.
NY doesn't receive data from other states, your driving record won't reflect the points from the ticket.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3862 on: September 04, 2022, 12:04:17 AM »
Pay it and move on. NY doesn't receive data from other states, your driving record won't reflect the points from the ticket.
But insurance might still go up

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3863 on: September 04, 2022, 02:52:23 AM »
But insurance might still go up
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3864 on: October 27, 2022, 01:34:18 PM »
Does a ticket in FL show up on NJ record?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3865 on: November 07, 2022, 11:47:22 PM »
Anyone have experience with speeding tickets in holland & Germany?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3866 on: November 08, 2022, 12:00:38 AM »
Anyone have experience with speeding tickets in holland & Germany?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3867 on: January 09, 2023, 02:28:58 PM »
Is anyone familiar with the Court in Mahwah NJ? I got a ticket for careless driving. Will the prosecutor work with me for a plea bargain to bring it down to a non-moving violation?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3868 on: January 18, 2023, 12:34:39 PM »
Who’s the best attorney to fight a speeding ticket in Florida?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3869 on: February 08, 2023, 07:11:01 PM »
got a careless driving ticket in Lakewood NJ 2 points
does it pay to get a lawyer? how much do they charge?
can I plea bargain myself?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3870 on: February 08, 2023, 07:16:44 PM »
got a careless driving ticket in Lakewood NJ 2 points
does it pay to get a lawyer? how much do they charge? shall cost 400-500
can I plea bargain myself? U can try 
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3871 on: February 08, 2023, 07:28:37 PM »
can I plea bargain myself?
When I tried to do a plea bargain, the prosecutor offered me a "no points" violation of reckless driving, which would've carried a fine of more than $400. I declined and instead hired Leib Klein. I later learned that the "no points" violation could've triggered a big bump in my insurance rates, which is precisely what I was trying to avoid by pleading out the points.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3872 on: February 08, 2023, 08:02:30 PM »
When I tried to do a plea bargain, the prosecutor offered me a "no points" violation of reckless driving, which would've carried a fine of more than $400. I declined and instead hired Leib Klein. I later learned that the "no points" violation could've triggered a big bump in my insurance rates, which is precisely what I was trying to avoid by pleading out the points.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3873 on: February 09, 2023, 12:21:18 AM »
Pay it and move on. NY doesn't receive data from other states, your driving record won't reflect the points from the ticket.

unless the violation occurred in Ontario or Quebec

https://dmv.ny.gov/tickets/about-nys-driver-point-system

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3874 on: February 28, 2023, 09:20:08 PM »
any recs for an attorney in Brooklyn NY?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3875 on: March 21, 2023, 01:28:59 PM »
Seems to be conflicting info here

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I'm not sure what you're assuming to be true is correct. There are 2 types of points you can get. One is the points on your actual license. And the other is points on your insurance (this is assessed based on your driving record). Points are only applied to your license for a period of 18 months from the date of the offense. So you're in the clear with the 4 year old ticket, and it sounds like the other ticket too since that one is also more than 18 moths old (based on your description). In other words, even if you are found guilty on both those tickets, you will not get any additional points on your license, assuming neither ticket occurred within the past 18 months.

However, the conviction remains on your driving record for a period of (I believe) 36 months from the date of conviction. This means that your insurance would likely go up if you're found guilty, unfortunately. And it would likely remain that way for 36 months.

There is a point in continuing to postpone your court date as much as possible (I know you said you've done it twice, but bear with me). First of all, as happened with me recently, the cop retired and they automatically dismissed the ticket. So the longer you postpone it, the greater the chance of something like that happening.

There are a few advantages to a lawyer. 1. They usually can postpone more than you can.  2. You don't have to go to the court and, for example, miss work 3. They might win the case. You can possibly win the case too, but they have a much better chance. That would save you the insurance going up. Now, if the lawyer will charge you $500, it may not be worthwhile at this point.


Your insurance doesn't go up until the conviction and it falls of the record based on the time passed from the violation.

There's a secondary benefit, that maybe by then the officer will be off of the force etc.
Which is it? Will pushing it off 3 years avoid the insurance rates increase? Or does it just delay it.

Wiki seems to say the latter

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3876 on: March 26, 2023, 10:51:07 AM »
Seems to be conflicting info here

Which is it? Will pushing it off 3 years avoid the insurance rates increase? Or does it just delay it.

Wiki seems to say the latter

Bump?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3877 on: June 21, 2023, 04:27:14 PM »
i got a ticket in NYC (staten Island) in March 2022. At that time i had a NJ state license. I now live in Connecticut. 
Back in 2022 I pushed off the ticket and it was rescheduled for 7/7/23. They are not letting me reschedule again. It is a speeding ticket (69 in a 50) so 203$ plus surcharges and 4 points,

#1 - will the 4 points transfer to CT for DMV purposes?

#2. will the 4 points transfer to CT for Insurance purposes (when determining rates) ?

#3 - is there even a point in me hiring a lawyer? If I remember correctly, it is very hard to fight a ticket in Staten Island. Also I remember vaguely hearing something about NYC not letting you plead down tickets, like making it either guilty or not, no chance of a lower charge with more money and no points. Could be wrong here. so If i just plead guilty now and pay, and I probably will have to do the same thing with a lawyer, what do I gain by hiring one? or does a lawyer have a realistic chance of getting me off or getting me to a much lower ticket? or maybe a lawyer is able to just push it off forever while I only got one time to push it off?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3878 on: June 21, 2023, 04:44:31 PM »
Am I better off hiring a lawyer in NJ or trying on my own on the portal or in court to dismiss 3 tickets I got.
  1st moving violation ticket I've gotten since I started driving.(Yes many years since that happened)
 Driving an unregistered car(a car that was registered previously but a few months passed without re-registering it.) Not sure if it makes a difference, but car wasn't mine was a siblings. ($55 Ticket)
 Then a ticket for fictitious plates, cop was a total clown! But yes I had an old registration  showing the plates of the car and the title and all. (Court appearance Required)
 Then the reason I got pulled, made a turn from the center lane vs going into the turning lane. (Well I kind of went to the turning lane and then made the turn). ($86- W/4 points)
 What I could and should have done is said I avoided hitting that person that ran into the street so I made the turn to avoid hitting them. Lol
 The unregistered car is what sparked it all.  And got my car towed and left me and the family stranded.  ::)
  Happened in Lodi, NJ.

What do you guys think my best bet is here?
 
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3879 on: July 03, 2023, 10:51:41 PM »
Am I better off hiring a lawyer in NJ or trying on my own on the portal or in court to dismiss 3 tickets I got.
  1st moving violation ticket I've gotten since I started driving.(Yes many years since that happened)
 Driving an unregistered car(a car that was registered previously but a few months passed without re-registering it.) Not sure if it makes a difference, but car wasn't mine was a siblings. ($55 Ticket)
 Then a ticket for fictitious plates, cop was a total clown! But yes I had an old registration  showing the plates of the car and the title and all. (Court appearance Required)
 Then the reason I got pulled, made a turn from the center lane vs going into the turning lane. (Well I kind of went to the turning lane and then made the turn). ($86- W/4 points)
 What I could and should have done is said I avoided hitting that person that ran into the street so I made the turn to avoid hitting them. Lol
 The unregistered car is what sparked it all.  And got my car towed and left me and the family stranded.  ::)
  Happened in Lodi, NJ.

What do you guys think my best bet is here?
 
If you go to court they will probably throw out at least one of the tickets (probably the fictitious plates one).



On another note, it is outrageous that in NJ they can tow your car for registration. It is an old law on the books to avoid having abandoned cars on the streets, and the cops abuse it par excellence.