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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3900 on: August 23, 2023, 11:14:39 PM »
No. That's a great way to go out of business.
The only way there can be a guarantee is if the kangaroo court judge/clerk etc. accepts bribes.
lot of places have a guarantee to move it off moving violation to a parking ticket. In nyc really not much to do except pray the cop doesn't show

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3901 on: August 24, 2023, 03:00:30 PM »
lot of places have a guarantee to move it off moving violation to a parking ticket. In nyc really not much to do except pray the cop doesn't show
I'm specifically referring to NYC

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3902 on: August 31, 2023, 08:23:59 AM »
anyone know where i can dispute a nj surchage bill?

i moved out of nj in sept 2022 and changed my address w the post office but had no idea i had to do the same w the mvc nj as well. i had gotten a ticket in march 2022 in nyc but pushed it off but finally plead guilty in july 2023. so nyc gave me 2 points, those 2 points transferred to my nj license (whch i havent used in a year) and that hit the 6 point mark of 6 points in 3 years....so now they gave 150$ surcharge for 3 years...and it clearly says if you move out of nj it dosent void the surchage. however i have a different claim. I MOVED out of nj a 11 months before you even gave me this damn surchage.....the surchage letter gives no place/website/phone number to appeal/dispute....any info would be appreciated


(coincendentally if i wouldve waited 2 weeks to pay the nyc tivket it wouldve been over 3 years, the only reason i didnt wait is bec the letter saying the ticket was pushed off didnt come in time bec it first went to my nj address and then had to get forwarded.)

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3903 on: September 18, 2023, 12:28:01 AM »
Anyway to win a red light ticket?
Made a right on red.
I didn't see the sign..

My rental car just charged me $175 (150+25)
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3904 on: September 18, 2023, 11:30:09 AM »
Anyway to win a red light ticket?
Made a right on red.
I didn't see the sign..

My rental car just charged me $175 (150+25)

Absolutely. But first you need to see the video and see what is shows.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3905 on: September 18, 2023, 11:32:41 AM »
Absolutely. But first you need to see the video and see what is shows.
pardon my ignorance, how to I request to see the video?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3906 on: September 18, 2023, 11:34:55 AM »
And also have a weird one. My FIL Got a parking ticket in the mail for being parked in a bus stop in Manhattan. He wasn't there at all, car was in the garage
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3907 on: September 18, 2023, 11:56:23 AM »
pardon my ignorance, how to I request to see the video?

They sent a notice of violation in the mail to the rental car company. The notice has a link to the video. You may also be able to look it up on line if you have the license plate.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3908 on: September 18, 2023, 11:57:34 AM »
And also have a weird one. My FIL Got a parking ticket in the mail for being parked in a bus stop in Manhattan. He wasn't there at all, car was in the garage

He can fight that on-line. Does he have the receipt from the garage showing when he was there?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3909 on: September 18, 2023, 12:20:33 PM »
They sent a notice of violation in the mail to the rental car company. The notice has a link to the video. You may also be able to look it up on line if you have the license plate.
found it online, looks like it was closed already :( ticket was 8/16
Closed on 9/11 said plead guilty
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3910 on: September 18, 2023, 12:20:56 PM »
He can fight that on-line. Does he have the receipt from the garage showing when he was there?
garage at home* sorry for not being clear

And thank you
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3911 on: September 18, 2023, 12:48:17 PM »
garage at home* sorry for not being clear

And thank you
Do you have any history of your car's trips with an app (KIA has that for example)? Do you have a camera covering your garage that you can provide screenshots of when it parked and when it left?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3912 on: October 17, 2023, 03:44:33 AM »
No. That's a great way to go out of business.
The only way there can be a guarantee is if the kangaroo court judge/clerk etc. accepts bribes.
Incorrect. If he usually wins 50% of cases, he can double his rate and offer a guarantee.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3913 on: October 17, 2023, 03:49:10 AM »
The ticket was issued in this state:NYC
The ticket is returnable to in this Town/Village/City:NYC
I have a license from this state:NY
Regular or Commercial license:Regular
Ticket one: Illegal U-Turn (2 points)
Ticket two(ex):
Accident?: No
I want information on "do it yourself":
I want information on "hire an attorney":
I want both: Both

Ticket was for an illegal U-Turn on CIA ave in Flatbush.
Was wondering if I can claim that I was going to make a left turn into carey ct, but then saw a sign which said the street is private property, so decided to make a U-Turn.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3914 on: October 23, 2023, 06:34:23 PM »
Anyone know of a good lawyer in NJ to help with a speeding ticket?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3915 on: October 23, 2023, 10:25:25 PM »
Anyone know of a good lawyer in NJ to help with a speeding ticket?
Read the wiki for that :)

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3916 on: December 18, 2023, 06:49:36 PM »
Hi all, seeking opinions on whether to hire an attorney or just pay the fine and go with the Diversion Program? It's a 3 point (NY) violation and a 2 point conversion to NJ. I have a clean record for over a decade.

I called the Wayland Town court and was told that if I plead not guilty, they'll send me info on the Diversion Prog, so am wondering do I really need an attorney to get this done Vs doing it myself?
Any advice appreciated, TIA!


The ticket was issued in this state: NY
The ticket is returnable to in this Town/Village/City: Town of Wayland, Steuben County NY
I have a license from this state: NJ
Regular or Commercial license: Regular
Ticket one: Speeding 75mph in 65mph zone
Ticket two(ex): No
Accident?: No
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I want information on "hire an attorney":
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3917 on: December 18, 2023, 06:53:28 PM »
an attorney is not "required" for the diversion program, depending how much of a DIY person you are you may benefit from having an attorney. but I haven't seen a 75/65 ticket in a very long time
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3918 on: December 18, 2023, 07:09:37 PM »
an attorney is not "required" for the diversion program, depending how much of a DIY person you are you may benefit from having an attorney. but I haven't seen a 75/65 ticket in a very long time
Thanks for you input! It seemed to me that it's a straightforward task to enroll in that program after pleading not guilty, but two things specifically - 1) the program has a 6 hr training which I want to avoid, 2) can hiring an attorney get me an edge on the verdict i.e. pay a reduced fine and get points removed?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3919 on: December 18, 2023, 07:21:26 PM »
Thanks for you input! It seemed to me that it's a straightforward task to enroll in that program after pleading not guilty, but two things specifically - 1) the program has a 6 hr training which I want to avoid, 2) can hiring an attorney get me an edge on the verdict i.e. pay a reduced fine and get points removed?
An attorney can potentially take care of it in other ways
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