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This thread discusses police officer issued traffic tickets in the state of New York.
For parking tickets and camera tickets go here
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0
or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489.
For traffic tickets outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

If you have a specific question, please provide this information so that members will be better able to answer you:.
The ticket was issued in this state:
The ticket is filed in this Town/Village/City:
I have a license from this state:
Regular or Commercial license:
Ticket one:
Ticket two(ex):
Accident?:
I want information on "do it yourself":
I want information on "hire an attorney":
I want both:


Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense, regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record, which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however, those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I lose over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore, the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question, the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non-CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email [email protected]
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Steuben, Tioga, and Wyoming.

Many courts allow you to negotiate with the prosecutor by mail without appearing. For courts that don't pick up the phone, try writing a letter. Some courts accept email or fax.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3960 on: September 10, 2024, 06:54:47 PM »
on a bike? Was it an ebike? Did they ask for id?
Ebike. They asked for ID (I know, I should have said I don't have)

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3961 on: October 13, 2024, 03:26:00 PM »
Has anyone ever gotten a ticket for the school bus safety violation and successfully appealed the ticket? I watched the video of it I was clearly mid way through the bus when he put out the stop sign. Any ideas of what to do would be appreciated

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3962 on: November 22, 2024, 06:28:56 AM »
I have a court date for a Cell Phone ticket (NYC). I pushed it off for about almost 2 years.

Anyone have any luck getting off? Anything more I could be doing?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3963 on: January 05, 2025, 09:52:38 PM »
I got a camera speeding ticket in the mail from Delaware - going 69 in a work zone speed limit of 55. Fine is $127, no points.

Is there anything to do about it that will cost less than $127, or do I just pay the fine and move on?
Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3964 on: January 05, 2025, 10:04:37 PM »
I got a camera speeding ticket in the mail from Delaware - going 69 in a work zone speed limit of 55. Fine is $127, no points.

Is there anything to do about it that will cost less than $127, or do I just pay the fine and move on?
I don't know about DE, but I once wrote a letter to whomever you would send payment to, and got the ticket waived.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3965 on: January 16, 2025, 08:28:07 AM »
Nyc ticket - up to how long before a court date can you push it off?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3966 on: February 24, 2025, 05:40:01 PM »
Got a ticket in Old Bridge NJ with a NJ license.

Officer gave me obstructing passage of other vehicles instead of a speeding ticket. He says I was going 68 in a 45.

Will it effect insurance if I just pay the $55 fine?

Or do I have a better option?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3967 on: February 26, 2025, 10:31:49 AM »
Got pulled over in Queens NY
for "operating motor vehicle while using portable electronic device"
violation 1225-D

Have a clean record, really don't wanty insurance to find out about this, searching online says I'll get 5points
Anyone successfully gets these dismissed? The cost isn't as important as my insurance not getting notified of this
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3968 on: February 26, 2025, 10:35:44 AM »
Got pulled over in Queens NY
for "operating motor vehicle while using portable electronic device"
violation 1225-D

Have a clean record, really don't wanty insurance to find out about this, searching online says I'll get 5points
Anyone successfully gets these dismissed? The cost isn't as important as my insurance not getting notified of this

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3969 on: February 26, 2025, 02:36:19 PM »
Got pulled over in Queens NY
for "operating motor vehicle while using portable electronic device"
violation 1225-D

Have a clean record, really don't wanty insurance to find out about this, searching online says I'll get 5points
Anyone successfully gets these dismissed? The cost isn't as important as my insurance not getting notified of this

Got this exact ticket also in nyc and used Gelbstein & Associates. court date has already been pushed off for about three years. Supposedly, if it gets delayed long enough, it won’t affect insurance since most insurers only look back 3–5 years, even if found guilty.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3970 on: February 26, 2025, 03:07:04 PM »
Got this exact ticket also in nyc and used Gelbstein & Associates. court date has already been pushed off for about three years. Supposedly, if it gets delayed long enough, it won’t affect insurance since most insurers only look back 3–5 years, even if found guilty.
delaying only helps for points. Insurance is 3 years from the date of the conviction not the date of the incident

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3971 on: February 26, 2025, 03:23:31 PM »
delaying only helps for points. Insurance is 3 years from the date of the conviction not the date of the incident

You have a source for that? Your saying even if the incident was 5 years ago and the conviction was today then insurance will still be affected?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3972 on: February 26, 2025, 03:26:31 PM »
You have a source for that? Your saying even if the incident was 5 years ago and the conviction was today then insurance will still be affected?
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https://www.coverhound.com/blog/how-a-new-york-traffic-ticket-affects-your-car-insurance-rates

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3973 on: February 26, 2025, 03:45:07 PM »
What about taking the defensive driving course? I'm reading conflicting reports online obviously my main concern is my insurance not going up..
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3974 on: February 26, 2025, 05:03:20 PM »
some lawyers may have better relationship w a particular judge
as far as i know there are TVB courts in every boro, its may be worthwhile to ask around for boro-based references before hiring a lawyer

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3975 on: February 26, 2025, 10:31:34 PM »
What about taking the defensive driving course? I'm reading conflicting reports online obviously my main concern is my insurance not going up..
taking the course usually adds a discount to the policy. Unrelated to tickets.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3976 on: February 26, 2025, 10:32:28 PM »
taking the course usually adds a discount to the policy. Unrelated to tickets.
correct but I was asking as far as having points on your license it removes 4 points or something of the sort. Looking for more clarity
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3977 on: February 28, 2025, 12:30:26 AM »
correct but I was asking as far as having points on your license it removes 4 points or something of the sort. Looking for more clarity
I don't think it helps. The insurer can still see what the violation was, and they have their own points system not tied to the dmv (as confirmed with progressive yesterday). If the violation still stands I doubt the course will be more than some token discount.
I had a slightly different story, and I called progressive to see how much i would save by taking the course and it didn't cover the cost of the course.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3978 on: February 28, 2025, 11:57:36 AM »
I don't think it helps. The insurer can still see what the violation was, and they have their own points system not tied to the dmv (as confirmed with progressive yesterday). If the violation still stands I doubt the course will be more than some token discount.
I had a slightly different story, and I called progressive to see how much i would save by taking the course and it didn't cover the cost of the course.
The course saves you 10% off most off your policy (excludes comprehensive) for 3 years, should definitely cover the cost. For points, it does not actually remove any points/violations, it just doesn't count upto 4 points towards DMV suspension, in other words it allows to get 4 more points before getting suspended.   

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3979 on: March 11, 2025, 11:33:51 AM »
Need help here. Received a ticket in NYC for being on my cell phone. First time offense. License is out of state. Is it better to plead guilty? fight the points?
any advice would be helpful. ty