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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

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Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New Jersey Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10 Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, or the advice of an attorney.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #990 on: February 12, 2014, 12:56:06 PM »
Insurance co won't know you got a ticket unless you're listed on a policy or you're applying for a new policy.
could u tell me where ur  getting that from?source/link please

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #991 on: February 12, 2014, 02:43:49 PM »
I'm not on insurance cause I'm in isreal now. But my license is from my home in Brooklyn. So I don't want the insurance company to find out that I drove .
My ins co lets people not on my policy drive my car. 
I was getting my kids (away at yeshiva) off my policy, and I told her I would even keep him away from the car on intersession breaks.  she took him off with proof of living out of town and said he CAN drive when he's home.
My daughter was not on my policy, probably because she was never told to them.  she had an accident and they covered w/o a problem.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #992 on: February 12, 2014, 02:47:27 PM »
My ins co lets people not on my policy drive my car. 
I was getting my kids (away at yeshiva) off my policy, and I told her I would even keep him away from the car on intersession breaks.  she took him off with proof of living out of town and said he CAN drive when he's home.
My daughter was not on my policy, probably because she was never told to them.  she had an accident and they covered w/o a problem.
even though the license was registered with the cars address ? I gotta let my dad no that.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #993 on: February 12, 2014, 10:56:29 PM »
what insurance company are you with?
keystone - AAA

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #994 on: February 13, 2014, 03:40:51 PM »
could u tell me where ur  getting that from?source/link please

I run records for Ins companies.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #995 on: February 13, 2014, 04:05:31 PM »
I run records for Ins companies.
then I guess I can trust u. Thanx for calming my nerves;D Now I don't really care much about 2 points as I'm not planning on applying for car insurance in the next 18 months.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #996 on: February 13, 2014, 08:54:43 PM »
Hirshtig, you are so wrong that you should get out of the business of ticket fighting. He MAY need to post a $40 bond to push it off but it depends on the judge.
Mr Bostener I don't know what is bothering your feathers. The guy is not asking what will happen if he shows up himself in Court and asks a Judge to push it off. He is asking if he can call or write a letter or push it off online and the answer is no.
And BTW it is Hirshthg

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #997 on: February 13, 2014, 09:04:38 PM »
I'm not on insurance cause I'm in isreal now. But my license is from my home in Brooklyn. So I don't want the insurance company to find out that I drove . (Went to America for a wedding)
He actually did check that my signal was working.
What is nys vtl code ... ?
And what's wrong with saying that I HEARD it from the GPS?
What's with option #2 u think it'll work?
Thanx alot !
Mr YSP sounds correct. As long as you don't get into an accident with a car under the policy you are trying to avoid you should be fine.

If you go to trial you can ask him if he check, and he should be able to say yes. However it would be another thing to catch him on.

New York State Vehicle and Traffic Law (Codes) are the rules of the road. New York City has some of it's own laws and they work differently.

Even if your gps told you to stay in your lane, that does not free you from the obligation to use your discretion in signaling, obeying signs ex.

As for option 2 he should testify that he saw that you did not signal which includes hand and blinker. I surly hope he can see both at the same time;)

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #998 on: February 13, 2014, 10:30:12 PM »
Mr YSP sounds correct. As long as you don't get into an accident with a car under the policy you are trying to avoid you should be fine.

If you go to trial you can ask him if he check, and he should be able to say yes. However it would be another thing to catch him on.

New York State Vehicle and Traffic Law (Codes) are the rules of the road. New York City has some of it's own laws and they work differently.

Even if your gps told you to stay in your lane, that does not free you from the obligation to use your discretion in signaling, obeying signs ex.

As for option 2 he should testify that he saw that you did not signal which includes hand and blinker. I surly hope he can see both at the same time;)
Thanx
Let's say I would get in2 an accident then ממה נפשך I'm good because if I'm not obligated then I'm guest insurance and if I'm obligated then I have to pay retroactively an they cover me

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #999 on: February 13, 2014, 11:35:04 PM »
Got ticket in lakewood for careless driving tonight.  Whats the aitza. I cant handle more points
shocking!!!

Couldn't hold back.
Seriously what were you doing? Where was?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1000 on: February 14, 2014, 09:40:03 AM »
How can I check how many points I have on my license? I got a ticket in Texas and pleaded guilty and paid. (They wouldnt allow a lawyer to represent me. I needed to show up in person, which was not an option).

Now I want to check if any points transferred.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1001 on: February 15, 2014, 08:33:13 PM »
How can I check how many points I have on my license? I got a ticket in Texas and pleaded guilty and paid. (They wouldnt allow a lawyer to represent me. I needed to show up in person, which was not an option).

Now I want to check if any points transferred.
What state is your license from?

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« Reply #1002 on: February 15, 2014, 08:36:25 PM »
Thanx
Let's say I would get in2 an accident then ממה נפשך I'm good because if I'm not obligated then I'm guest insurance and if I'm obligated then I have to pay retroactively an they cover me
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Insurance coverage goes by the car, and as long as the car is not stolen (and even sometimes if it is stolen) the insurance co will pay. Payment for insurance goes by household, and I have never heard of "retroactive" payment after a crash however they may start to "put more people on the policy" aka charge more for the household and they may even decide they don't want to cover you anymore if they think they can't trust your statement of "who and who" will be driving the car.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1003 on: February 15, 2014, 08:51:15 PM »


but your saying that even if I'm obligated to pay but don't pay cause they don't know I have a license they must cover for an accident since the insurance goes by car?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1004 on: February 15, 2014, 10:21:26 PM »