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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1840 on: June 25, 2015, 11:08:41 PM »
Guys I got ticket in California for speeding this past week. First time offender. What should I do? I spoke to some lawyers and they offered to fight and get the case dismissed but they also said I can pay for the ticket then do traffic school.
From my research, traffic school didn't really help insurance.. Cmiiw

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1841 on: June 25, 2015, 11:23:51 PM »
From my research, traffic school didn't really help insurance.. Cmiiw
If it removes points why doesn't it help insurance?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1842 on: June 26, 2015, 02:03:15 PM »
I called them. They said they'd charge $450. Why is there such a difference?Additionally, all I can find is that after a year of no violations, 3 points come off, which is why the DMV told me I have no points on my record. I can't find anywhere that says the points come back if you get another violation within the 3 years. Even if they do, the surcharge for 6 points is $150, not $500. Is he trying to take me for a ride?

"Points coming off" is a bit misleading. They stay on your record forever however they don't count for suspending you.

Why the difference in price? I can't answer that.

From my research, traffic school didn't really help insurance.. Cmiiw

If it removes points why doesn't it help insurance?

As explained above "removed points" in NJ only means that you will not be suspended. Not that insurance (or courts) can't see the points.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1843 on: June 26, 2015, 06:29:28 PM »
"Points coming off" is a bit misleading. They stay on your record forever however they don't count for suspending you.

Why the difference in price? I can't answer that.

As explained above "removed points" in NJ only means that you will not be suspended. Not that insurance (or courts) can't see the points.
But isn't it true that after a certain amount of time (like 3 years in NY) insurance can't take them into account?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1844 on: June 28, 2015, 02:07:59 AM »
I have a NJ license which is temporary as i only had a visa in the US and i got a ticket in NY which i paid in full. I recently got in the mail the $300 Driver assesment Fee. Does anyone know if i need to pay it? My actual license expires in a year and its not as if i can renew it. But i dont want to get messed up as i may want to move there one day.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1845 on: June 29, 2015, 07:46:20 PM »
a friend got 4 tickets (at one time) in Monsey.

not stopping at a stop sign
failure to signal (x2)
unregistered vehicle

what is he up against? what are his options?
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1846 on: June 30, 2015, 12:08:17 AM »
a friend got 4 tickets (at one time) in Monsey.

not stopping at a stop sign
failure to signal (x2)
unregistered vehicle

what is he up against? what are his options?

friend of mine got worse (in Monsey too), had to hire a lawyer & it costed alot of $ but it helped him..

Ran a stop sign
no seatbelt
on the phone
insurance was expired or he didnt have the card or so
littered (threw down a cigarette in front of the cop)

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1847 on: June 30, 2015, 12:19:00 AM »
friend of mine got worse (in Monsey too), had to hire a lawyer & it costed alot of $ but it helped him..

Ran a stop sign
no seatbelt
on the phone
insurance was expired or he didnt have the card or so
littered (threw down a cigarette in front of the cop)
Was it a stolen car too?  :D

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1848 on: June 30, 2015, 12:32:51 PM »
Got a ticket in nj for careless driving , is it points? Is it worth to take a lawyer ? Do they do plea bargains in paramus nj?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1849 on: June 30, 2015, 12:37:37 PM »
Got a ticket in nj for careless driving , is it points? Is it worth to take a lawyer ? Do they do plea bargains in paramus nj?
What state is your licence in?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1850 on: June 30, 2015, 12:39:24 PM »
What state is your licence in?
Ny license

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1851 on: June 30, 2015, 12:56:33 PM »
Ny license
As long as you pay they dont transfer points IME

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1852 on: June 30, 2015, 01:54:50 PM »
As long as you pay they dont transfer points IME
But I dont want points even in mj ,is there a way reducing it?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1853 on: June 30, 2015, 01:55:50 PM »
But I dont want points even in mj ,is there a way reducing it?
It won't be points just money for the violations

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1854 on: June 30, 2015, 01:56:48 PM »
It won't be points just money for the violations
Careless driving is points

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1855 on: June 30, 2015, 01:59:36 PM »
Careless driving is points
Correct if you get it in NY not NJ

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1856 on: June 30, 2015, 02:01:55 PM »
Then I get nj points

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1857 on: June 30, 2015, 02:02:10 PM »
Correct if you get it in NY not NJ
Then I get nj points

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1858 on: June 30, 2015, 02:13:35 PM »
Then I get nj points
Doesnt work that way it goes on your licence. and if you have a NY licence then you are good. I got a speeding ticket a few years ago in NJ and no effect to my license.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1859 on: June 30, 2015, 02:15:05 PM »
Doesnt work that way it goes on your licence. and if you have a NY licence then you are good. I got a speeding ticket a few years ago in NJ and no effect to my license.
I didn't ask nothing about affecting , I want to avoid getting points on my license even it just in nj and if there is a way

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