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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

***Join the push to change the system in NYC. https://www.change.org/p/new-york-change-traffic-courts-in-new-york-city-nyc-tvb ***

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New Jersey Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10 Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, or the advice of an attorney.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2040 on: August 23, 2015, 04:21:51 PM »
Do you ever wonder if it's the right thing to do? I mean, the guy did park illegally and deserves the ticket.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2041 on: August 23, 2015, 04:25:52 PM »
Is that how You think when You receive a ticket as well?

No. I don't think I'm that straight.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2042 on: August 23, 2015, 05:01:13 PM »
I know someone who buys a meter receipt in the morning, puts it in his pocket, and sends it in at the end of the day to fight the ticket he gets. Says it's cheaper and easier than paying for meters all day in Manhattan.
i meant the traffic ticket

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2043 on: August 23, 2015, 05:03:20 PM »
i meant the traffic ticket
I know, and I therefore referenced a story about someone who relies on the fact that he's only going to get one ticket a day (otherwise his scheme is an exercise in futility).
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2044 on: August 23, 2015, 05:44:36 PM »
I know, and I therefore referenced a story about someone who relies on the fact that he's only going to get one ticket a day (otherwise his scheme is an exercise in futility).
Maybe they just didn't catch on the envelope schtik in Manhattan yet.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2045 on: August 23, 2015, 05:46:41 PM »
Now it's my turn...

Got yesterday night 2 tickets in Monsey, the officer claimed in didn't make a total stop at the stop sign for which he gave me a "FLD TO STOP @ STOP SIGN",
And then he claimed I was speeding for which he gave me a speeding ticket 50 in a 30 zone, speed verified by Pace.

When he handed me the tickets he told me I can set a court date and I can try "to knock it down to one", not sure what he meant...

So what should I do know?
Plea Not guilty without any explanations and just appear in court and should have an easy time fighting it?
Give it to a lawer?

TIA.
Just got a letter with my court date set,
Is there any benefit of pushing it off (and then again and then again) and hope for I don't know what (maybe apocalypse...) or should I just go and get over it?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2046 on: August 23, 2015, 06:11:55 PM »
Often, when I see someone with a ticket on their windshield, I tuck my receipt in with it.
You're a Good Samaritan ;)
Seriously though that's a very nice thing to do.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2047 on: August 23, 2015, 06:13:31 PM »
You're a Good Samaritan ;)
Seriously though that's a very nice thing to do.
I used to put coins in people's meters, so this is definitely cheaper. I used to get constant arrest threats for "obstruction of justice".
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2048 on: August 23, 2015, 06:36:10 PM »
I used to put coins in people's meters, so this is definitely cheaper. I used to get constant arrest threats for "obstruction of justice".

Funny. I did the same thing along Central Avenue for many Sundays, when all the meter maids are hopping around. Never got anything but dirty looks, though.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2049 on: August 24, 2015, 08:15:32 AM »
I used to put coins in people's meters, so this is definitely cheaper. I used to get constant arrest threats for "obstruction of justice".
You're not allowed to put coins in a meter for someone? Since when? There's no end to the gov's greed

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2050 on: August 24, 2015, 09:01:09 AM »
You're not allowed to put coins in a meter for someone? Since when? There's no end to the gov's greed

Remember that the primary purpose of meters is not to make money. The point of meters is to ensure a wider distribution of parking spots. Filling someone's meter defeats that purpose.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2051 on: August 24, 2015, 10:51:37 AM »
You must not be a New Yorker if you could say that, the primery reason for evreything NYC does is for Money

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2052 on: August 24, 2015, 11:02:01 AM »
Just got a letter with my court date set,
Is there any benefit of pushing it off (and then again and then again) and hope for I don't know what (maybe apocalypse...) or should I just go and get over it?
Bump.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2053 on: August 24, 2015, 04:06:53 PM »
Bump.
what they say is that pushing it off only helps for license suspension tally

pushing it off not for that reason though could eventually result in

A. cop retiring
b. injured/dead

so I guess it doesn't hurt to push it off - though from what I hear you can only push it off a certain amount of times.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2054 on: August 24, 2015, 04:53:02 PM »
what they say is that pushing it off only helps for license suspension tally

pushing it off not for that reason though could eventually result in

A. cop retiring
b. injured/dead

so I guess it doesn't hurt to push it off - though from what I hear you can only push it off a certain amount of times.
Is it worth having it on your head for 2 years? I'm not sure what the ticket is but for the slight chance you might get away with it I would just pay it now rather than have it on my head for all that time.