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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2060 on: August 27, 2015, 02:30:12 AM »
Remember that the primary purpose of meters is not to make money. The point of meters is to ensure a wider distribution of parking spots. Filling someone's meter defeats that purpose.
That's why every plea bargain made for a moving violations they drop the points and make you pay, is that for safety as well?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2061 on: August 27, 2015, 02:56:12 PM »
I got gridlocked today in midtown Manhattan, and there were traffic cops on foot swarming the area. While they did had out tickets to a few drivers, they didn't give me one. Do I have any cause for concern that they'll mail me one?
No, they may not mail you a ticket.

Just got a letter with my court date set,
Is there any benefit of pushing it off (and then again and then again) and hope for I don't know what (maybe apocalypse...) or should I just go and get over it?
In the city I am assuming? You could play the "push off game" in the hopes of the cop retiring, however it doesn't help insurance purposes.
Non NYC ticket? Go in now to plead it down, before you annoy the clerk and lose your chance at a plea deal.

For a non NYC ticket which will most likely be bargained down to a no point violation I'd think it makes sense to get it over with. In NYC when you're dealing with the TVB courts that don't bargain it's worth it to push off insurance-wise, because insurance can only charge you extra within a certain time period and your delay limits that.
The insurance companies start to charge you extra from the date of conviction. They bump your rates for 3-4 years, the same time length as if you plead guilty initially. For exceptions, see the wiki.

what they say is that pushing it off only helps for license suspension tally
pushing it off not for that reason though could eventually result in A. cop retiring b. injured/dead
so I guess it doesn't hurt to push it off - though from what I hear you can only push it off a certain amount of times.
Pushing it off does not help for suspension /tally purposes. You could wait for the cop to stop showing up, however when you cross over the magic line, they will suspend you without warning, and then your only recourse is to plead guilty (and you lose your opportunity to go to trial.)

I made a illegal U-turn into the gas station on the palisades parkway cop pulled me over gave me TEN tickets all for different offenses but all same idea no points.... Will I have an easy time fighting it ? 
wow, he must of had a lot of tickets to lose... Go plead them down to 2 or so...
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2062 on: August 28, 2015, 04:46:50 AM »
Just got pulled in spring vally NY by a trooper for speeding 47 in a 30 he gave me a tic for disobeying traffic control device.
My car is registered in NJ and my license is Michigan, on the tix the cop wrote my mi license number and exp but put down the NJ address where my car is registered.
Is this grounds for getting ticket thrown our and how do I go about this?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2063 on: August 28, 2015, 05:43:08 AM »
Just got pulled in spring vally NY by a trooper for speeding 47 in a 30 he gave me a tic for disobeying traffic control device.
My car is registered in NJ and my license is Michigan, on the tix the cop wrote my mi license number and exp but put down the NJ address where my car is registered.
Is this grounds for getting ticket thrown our and how do I go about this?

1. It isn't grounds to have the ticket thrown out.
2. You can plead this ticket of around $250 down to a parking ticket for around $175.
3. You are facing a minor 2 point charge, which will be reported to MI if you are convicted of the original 2 point charge.
4. You may want to check with MI, to see what they do when a NY "traffic control device" conviction is reported to them.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2064 on: August 28, 2015, 09:34:08 AM »
a friend got 4 tickets (at one time) in Monsey.

not stopping at a stop sign
failure to signal (x2)
unregistered vehicle

what is he up against? what are his options?
Update:

He used Zev Goldstein who made it a $150 fine with no points. Will definitely recommend him.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2065 on: August 28, 2015, 12:15:08 PM »
Just got pulled in spring vally NY by a trooper for speeding 47 in a 30 he gave me a tic for disobeying traffic control device.
My car is registered in NJ and my license is Michigan, on the tix the cop wrote my mi license number and exp but put down the NJ address where my car is registered.
Is this grounds for getting ticket thrown our and how do I go about this?
1. It isn't grounds to have the ticket thrown out.
2. You can plead this ticket of around $250 down to a parking ticket for around $175.
3. You are facing a minor 2 point charge, which will be reported to MI if you are convicted of the original 2 point charge.
4. You may want to check with MI, to see what they do when a NY "traffic control device" conviction is reported to them.

good luck
is it gonna registrar in the system if it has my mi lic # on it but has the cars registration address?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2066 on: August 28, 2015, 06:41:51 PM »
is it gonna registrar in the system if it has my mi lic # on it but has the cars registration address?
goes by the license number.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2067 on: August 28, 2015, 07:04:20 PM »
How does it work when you get a parking ticket, and you get a new lease with a new licence plate #.

Are all the old tickets gone?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2068 on: August 29, 2015, 10:51:20 PM »
How does it work when you get a parking ticket, and you get a new lease with a new licence plate #.

Are all the old tickets gone?
I have no experience but I highly doubt it.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2069 on: August 29, 2015, 10:53:15 PM »
I have no experience but I highly doubt it.
There are 2 parts to the question.

1) in the state that your license is issued
2) in any other state or in Canada


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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2070 on: August 29, 2015, 11:49:03 PM »
How does it work when you get a parking ticket, and you get a new lease with a new licence plate #.

Are all the old tickets gone?
no
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2071 on: August 30, 2015, 11:37:56 PM »
How does it work when you get a parking ticket, and you get a new lease with a new licence plate #.

Are all the old tickets gone?
Moving violations (tickets for driving illegally) go to the driver of the car, and are recorded through the name, date of birth, and license number. Parking tickets are issued to the registrant of the car. When you lease a car, there is some small text inside which allows the parking tickets (and tolls ex.) to flow directly to the lessee. From my experience, the leasing company gets the ticket to flow directly to your cc.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2072 on: September 02, 2015, 11:51:00 PM »
I have a court date tomorrow, do I need to be on time?
It's in Ramapo so I wanna take the Monsey bus, the bus is scheduled to arrive in Monsey at 1:55 and my session is set for 2:00.
I might not make it on time if I take the bus,
Anyone?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2073 on: September 03, 2015, 07:53:46 AM »
You don't need to be there exactly on time. Chances are, there's going to be a long line to see the prosecutor anyway.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2074 on: September 03, 2015, 09:06:10 AM »
You don't need to be there exactly on time. Chances are , there's going to be a long line to see the prosecutor anyway.
And what if there's no line and they'll be waiting for me 25 min?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2075 on: September 03, 2015, 09:53:13 AM »
And what if there's no line and they'll be waiting for me 25 min?
I only had one ticket there, and it was a long line. I can't say for sure though, cuz I was only there once.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2076 on: September 03, 2015, 10:55:01 AM »
I have a court date tomorrow, do I need to be on time?
It's in Ramapo so I wanna take the Monsey bus, the bus is scheduled to arrive in Monsey at 1:55 and my session is set for 2:00.
I might not make it on time if I take the bus,
Anyone?
Bump.

PS, thx Dr Moose for trying to help.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2077 on: September 03, 2015, 11:49:18 AM »
Bump.

PS, thx Dr Moose for trying to help.
Probably a good idea. You talking about the court in Suffern? It'll be a good 10 minute drive from where the bus drops off with all the traffic, and that's if the bus drops off on time.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2078 on: September 03, 2015, 11:56:18 AM »
Probably a good idea. You talking about the court in Suffern? It'll be a good 10 minute drive from where the bus drops off with all the traffic, and that's if the bus drops off on time.
You mean "not" a good idea, yea?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2079 on: September 03, 2015, 12:33:01 PM »
You mean "not" a good idea, yea?
"Do I need to be on time?"
Probably a good idea.