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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2260 on: January 15, 2016, 02:29:52 AM »
I feel like this one of my most frequented threads in DDF

I got a ticket on the 17 westbound, going 84 in a 65. The court is the town of Wallkill.

What are my options?
All I can say is, be grateful that it was 84 and not 85. That one mile can make one heck of a lot of a difference.
Trust me, I was there.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2261 on: January 15, 2016, 10:10:08 AM »
All I can say is, be grateful that it was 84 and not 85. That one mile can make one heck of a lot of a difference.
Trust me, I was there.
IINM no difference between 19 & 20 MPH over speed limit. The big difference is between 20 & 21 MPH.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2262 on: January 17, 2016, 09:51:44 PM »
IINM no difference between 19 & 20 MPH over speed limit. The big difference is between 20 & 21 MPH.


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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2263 on: January 18, 2016, 12:24:39 AM »
Got a ticket from the sheriff for doing 55 in a 30, Ramapo Town Court. What are my options? This is my first ticket, if it matters.

Ticket says "return by mail before or in person on 1/11/16, 7:00 PM". Does that mean I need to be there on the 11th at 7?

I'm totally confused as to the process and looking through 2242 posts will probably just add to my confusion :P.
In Ramapo with 25 over they are not going to give you a parking ticket either way. You can go down yourself or hire a lawyer to get a plead deal. You should be able to get it down from 6 points to 2 points.

Thx. Looks like all I have is this. https://gyazo.com/8c36fbde035917b452792d29055db6af
Looks like they had to pull shtick to keep the case alive. Either way the suspension could affect your insurance.

My wife got a speeding ticket right before crossing the outerbridge -the summons is  to the muncipal court of the city of perth amboy. The cop told us we coukd just pay without going to court but the ticket says court appearance required. Is there anyway to just pay without going to court? It's only $105. Also will there be points if she has a new york license

The officer said one thing and wrote another. If it says she needs to appear, even an attorney may not be able to help her with that. Her could call the clerks and tell them that she is far, taking care of children, ex. at  (732) 442-6011 and perhaps they will simply take her money... The NJ points won't affect her NY license as long as she takes care of it.

any reason to get a lawyer? And if guilty anyway to get it down to a parking ticket?

An attorney can't plead it down, however he may be able to trip up the officer in testimony a lot better than you can. He also talks in nice legal lingo like the judge, which the officer does not. You are basically stacking the odds, but its still a game of luck.

I got a ticket on the 17 westbound, going 84 in a 65. The court is the town of Wallkill. What are my options?
Wallkill is a bad court. On a good day you can get 2 points out of 4, on a bad day you can get stuck with a 3 point speed down from 4...

If you got yourself a parking ticket for parking on alternate side only 10 minutes past the time ,is it worth it to fight or is it even possible to get rid of (meaning to be able to fight it )or is the best bet to just to pay it ??
Most ticket attorneys will not give you the time of day with parking tickets. Check the wiki for a link to the DDF discussion on parking tickets and for a few names people who can help you.

Got a speeding ticket in Miami, I have a NY License. Clean record, the cop said he will probably dismiss it if I go to court. Any suggestions for an attorney?
Lots of good attorney's out there. Either way the points won't affect your license here in NY.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2264 on: January 18, 2016, 07:43:00 AM »
Wallkill is a bad court. On a good day you can get 2 points out of 4, on a bad day you can get stuck with a 3 point speed down from 4...
If it's such a dificult court, is it worth getting an attorney for that? if I go myself it will have the same affect?
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2265 on: January 18, 2016, 02:44:09 PM »
I got a hydrant ticket. Cop didn't write a date. Is that a good enough defense?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2266 on: January 18, 2016, 06:46:42 PM »
Family member got a ticket for right on red in NYC. The road in front was blocked off and last named was misspelled if that helps... Any point in hiring a lawyer?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2267 on: January 20, 2016, 04:10:26 PM »
Lots of good attorney's out there.

That doesn't really help me. I imagine there are lots of bad ones too. I'm looking for recommendations so I don't get one of the bad ones.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2268 on: January 20, 2016, 04:37:05 PM »
Would points given in nj on a maryland license transfer/stay if i switch to a nj license?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2269 on: January 21, 2016, 10:22:39 AM »
I did 71 in a 55 mph upstate ny on the taconic state parkway pleasent valley duchess county first ticket what's my best option I'm 20 and I don't own a car yet? thanks
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2270 on: January 21, 2016, 12:23:04 PM »

I did 71 in a 55 mph upstate ny on the taconic state parkway pleasent valley duchess county first ticket what's my best option I'm 20 and I don't own a car yet? thanks
in all my experiences in upstate ny courts you'll speak to the prosecutor first and you'll work out a plea bargain. 

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2271 on: January 21, 2016, 01:55:25 PM »
in all my experiences in upstate ny courts you'll speak to the prosecutor first and you'll work out a plea bargain. 
meaning don't send anything back show up to court on the day it says and talk to the prosecutor there?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2272 on: January 21, 2016, 03:01:55 PM »

meaning don't send anything back show up to court on the day it says and talk to the prosecutor there?
no send it back pleading not guilty, they will mail you a new court date.
That date is just a deadline you need to submit it by.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2273 on: January 21, 2016, 05:49:39 PM »
If it's such a dificult court, is it worth getting an attorney for that? if I go myself it will have the same affect?
An attorney may be helpful.
I got a hydrant ticket. Cop didn't write a date. Is that a good enough defense?
yes. How can you defend yourself when you are notified as to when the offense is alleged to have occurred?

Family member got a ticket for right on red in NYC. The road in front was blocked off and last named was misspelled if that helps... Any point in hiring a lawyer? 
Yes to go to trial for you.

Would points given in nj on a maryland license transfer/stay if i switch to a nj license?
to the best of knowledge no, however we have NJ practitioners who may know better.

I did 71 in a 55 mph upstate ny on the taconic state parkway pleasent valley duchess county first ticket what's my best option I'm 20 and I don't own a car yet? thanks
Go plead it down yourself or hire someone to go for you. If you are doing it yourself make sure you are doing it right.


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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2274 on: January 22, 2016, 01:19:39 AM »
You have the opportunity to go to trial and there you ask him if the light was yellow or red. My suspicion is that when he gets up on the stand he will claim that it was red.
See the wiki. You can postpone it up to two days before the hearing online, the first time. Next time they want you to come in to post bail. Third time (or the fourth for some judges) they suspend your license until the ticket is resolved

Do cops REALLY remember what happened 2 years ago? or they pretend?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2275 on: January 22, 2016, 02:09:25 AM »
Do cops REALLY remember what happened 2 years ago? or they pretend?
No, they just read out of their notes.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2276 on: January 25, 2016, 11:39:14 PM »
No, they just read out of their notes.
Which they are not allowed to do. But that is what they do.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2277 on: January 26, 2016, 09:58:51 AM »
Which they are not allowed to do. But that is what they do.

I think they are allowed to.  I didn't take evidence in law school, but I did take the BARBRI course on it.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2278 on: January 26, 2016, 10:01:22 AM »
Which they are not allowed to do. But that is what they do.
Why wouldn't they be allowed to?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #2279 on: January 26, 2016, 10:17:39 AM »
Why wouldn't they be allowed to?

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