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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2520 on: July 07, 2016, 06:23:03 PM »
@Hirshthg and others
Sorry but I'm a bit confused. NJ speeding tickets do not affect the insurance of NY drivers, and neither do Maine tickets. So why should WY tickets (or from any state) affect it? From the NYS DMV:

"The New York State DMV does not record out-of-state convictions of moving traffic violations of New York State non-commercial licensed drivers, except for traffic offenses committed in the provinces of Ontario and Quebec in Canada.
The New York State DMV records the out-of-state convictions of any New York driver for criminal negligence, homicide, or assault, which arise out of the operation of a motor vehicle and which results in death. As a result of any of these convictions, your NYS Driver License will be revoked."

So does this not mean that unless the conviction is criminal it will not show up on NYS license and so insurance won't see it (with the exception of Ontario and Quebec)? I mean if NY isn't recording it and the insurance companies are only looking at my NY record then how can it affect me?

Thanks, just having a hard time getting this clear.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2521 on: July 08, 2016, 05:45:02 PM »
Anyway to fight a camera ticket for going 36 in a 25 limit ( ocean prky if course ) ?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2522 on: July 10, 2016, 02:01:05 AM »
A speeding ticket in Maine. NY license.  I paid it.  It sounds like I'll get 2 points, but the insurance co won't know. Is that correct?
Almost. You get whatever amount of point on the Maine record as Maine provides. But you get 0 points in NY.

According to this new information that's being said, why according to the WIKI, if I have a NY license and received a moving violation in NJ, can I just pay the ticket without it affecting my NY driving record?
Correct

My question is why? Wouldn't NJ tell NY that I was speeding, going 20 Mph over speed limit?

NY chooses not to care.
Exactly. NJ does report the conviction to NY but NY chooses not to care and not to record the conviction. Why NY doesn't care is a mystery to me, but I am not complaining.

Thanks.  I thought it depended on the state of the offense.
Each state can only affect the result of a conviction in that state. NJ can't tell NY to record a conviction. NJ can tell NY, and then NY chooses what it wants to do with that info. Likewise if you are suspended in NJ you are not automatically suspended in NY. NJ reports the suspension to NY and then NY chooses what it wants to do with that information.

@Hirshthg and others
Sorry but I'm a bit confused. NJ speeding tickets do not affect the insurance of NY drivers, and neither do Maine tickets. So why should WY tickets (or from any state) affect it? From the NYS DMV:  "The New York State DMV does not record out-of-state convictions of moving traffic violations of New York State non-commercial licensed drivers, except for traffic offenses committed in the provinces of Ontario and Quebec in Canada. The New York State DMV records the out-of-state convictions of any New York driver for criminal negligence, homicide, or assault, which arise out of the operation of a motor vehicle and which results in death. As a result of any of these convictions, your NYS Driver License will be revoked."

So does this not mean that unless the conviction is criminal it will not show up on NYS license and so insurance won't see it (with the exception of Ontario and Quebec)? I mean if NY isn't recording it and the insurance companies are only looking at my NY record then how can it affect me? Thanks, just having a hard time getting this clear.
That is correct. We are all on the same page here.

Anyway to fight a camera ticket for going 36 in a 25 limit ( ocean prky if course ) ?
Try reposting here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2523 on: July 10, 2016, 09:40:36 AM »
@Hirshthg

So I'm confused. My original question was:
"Got a ticket in Wyoming for doing 60 in a 45 zone. The fine is $110 and I have a NY license. Does a conviction affect my insurance at all (and so should consider hiring a lawyer to fight it)? Or should I just pay it and move on? Thanks"

To which you responded:
Its a 4 point speed and your insurance company can cancel your "good driver discounts" if you have any. They can raise your rates if you don't. Find someone to work out a plea deal with the Wyoming DA's office or go into court yourself for a reduction.

So I SHOULD fight it because it WILL affect my insurance. But now we're saying that NY won't record it so it WON'T affect my insurance so I should just pay it.

That is correct. We are all on the same page here.

So what's the final word? Do I just pay it because it will NOT affect my insurance or should I hire someone in Wyoming to fight it because it will?

Thanks again

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2524 on: July 12, 2016, 11:53:12 PM »
@Hirshthg So I'm confused. My original question was:
"Got a ticket in Wyoming for doing 60 in a 45 zone. The fine is $110 and I have a NY license. Does a conviction affect my insurance at all (and so should consider hiring a lawyer to fight it)? Or should I just pay it and move on? Thanks"

To which you responded:
So I SHOULD fight it because it WILL affect my insurance. But now we're saying that NY won't record it so it WON'T affect my insurance so I should just pay it.
I apologize. Wyoming county NY? fight it! Wyoming state? pay it. I hope this clarifies. 

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2525 on: July 13, 2016, 12:44:47 AM »
I apologize. Wyoming county NY? fight it! Wyoming state? pay it. I hope this clarifies.
LOL I didn't even know there was a Wyoming County in NY and so yes I was referring to the state of Wyoming. Thanks for your help!

One last thing-why do people say that out of state tickets can affect your insurance? Are they just clueless or does it depend on state/region?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2526 on: July 13, 2016, 11:05:57 PM »
got a ticket for 71 in a 50 in staten island. whats the best way to deal with it? i have nj license will the [points transfer?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2527 on: July 14, 2016, 12:39:05 AM »
got a ticket for 71 in a 50 in staten island. whats the best way to deal with it? i have nj license will the [points transfer?
I'm no pro but I think you'll get 2 points if you plead guilty.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2528 on: July 14, 2016, 04:42:24 AM »
I'm no pro but I think you'll get 2 points if you plead guilty.
I believe  it's at least  4 points  and I  had  a  couple  of  friends  who  told  me it's  very  very  tuff  there . ..1 friend  pay ed   $600 for an  attorney  and he didn't  get  any bargain

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2529 on: July 14, 2016, 11:04:29 AM »
I believe  it's at least  4 points  and I  had  a  couple  of  friends  who  told  me it's  very  very  tuff  there . ..1 friend  pay ed   $600 for an  attorney  and he didn't  get  any bargain
I think your right about it being a 4 point violation in NY but as mentioned above, the points don't transfer, they transfer the violation and NJ can do as they wish with it.
I believe NJ gives 2 points for all out of state moving violations.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2530 on: July 14, 2016, 12:45:48 PM »
yes they only take 2 points

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2531 on: July 14, 2016, 04:13:18 PM »
LOL I didn't even know there was a Wyoming County in NY and so yes I was referring to the state of Wyoming. Thanks for your help! One last thing-why do people say that out of state tickets can affect your insurance? Are they just clueless or does it depend on state/region?

Depends on the "transfer to" state. As you are from NY with a non CDL it will not affect your insurance as long as you take care of it and don't personally inform your insurance co.

got a ticket for 71 in a 50 in staten island. whats the best way to deal with it? i have nj license will the [points transfer?
Its 6 points in NY and around $500 in fines. Its 2 points transferred to NJ. No plead deals in this court: every case goes to trial for a hit or miss. Even if the judge finds lack of expertise for 1 MPH, he could find you guilty of only 20 over which is 4 points and saves you $300 in fines. Let me know if you want more info.

As to the rest of you people on the internet with bad info, please stop... 21 MPH over is 6 points in NY https://dmv.ny.gov/tickets/about-nys-driver-point-system

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2532 on: July 14, 2016, 08:18:07 PM »
just got a cell phone talking ticket by the verrazzano MTA toll booth guy.

Does that have 5 point like a regular cop??
Can a defensive driving course take it off?
Should I hire attorney? Any other course of action?
First big ticket for me :(

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2533 on: July 14, 2016, 10:06:55 PM »
just got a cell phone talking ticket by the verrazzano MTA toll booth guy.

Does that have 5 point like a regular cop??
Can a defensive driving course take it off?
Should I hire attorney? Any other course of action?
First big ticket for me :(
Till booth guys can give tickets??

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2534 on: July 14, 2016, 10:12:19 PM »
Till booth guys can give tickets??

so i learned today.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2535 on: July 14, 2016, 10:25:47 PM »
Till booth guys can give tickets??

The Verrazano doesn't just have standard toll booth guys. They got cops there all the time.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2536 on: July 14, 2016, 10:29:50 PM »
could be. but he was not uniformed.
In any case whats my best course of action?
Will 5 points kill insurance rates? I am 2nd person on my Fathers plan

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2537 on: July 14, 2016, 10:45:38 PM »
Who still pays cash at the ezpass tolls?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2538 on: July 14, 2016, 10:47:44 PM »
who said i used cash? there was heavy volume and he motioned for me to stop. i probly could have ignored him and zipped by and gotten away but didnt seem wise. now what to do about my 5 points anyone?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2539 on: July 14, 2016, 11:06:20 PM »
who said i used cash? there was heavy volume and he motioned for me to stop. i probly could have ignored him and zipped by and gotten away but didnt seem wise. now what to do about my 5 points anyone?
He would have radioed in to get you pulled, you would end up with much for than just 5 points