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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3200 on: June 13, 2018, 05:33:44 AM »
When showing up in nyc traffic court without a lawyer, is it likely to get the fine or points lowered. Can the judge decided on reduced penalty or is it only guilty/innocent (since there is no plea bargain in nyc) and can the penalty be raised?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3201 on: June 13, 2018, 10:57:23 AM »
Can the judge decided on reduced penalty or is it only guilty/innocent (since there is no plea bargain in nyc)no, no!! and can the penalty be raised? no
If you have exculpitory evidence, it can be dismissed.  If you have a good excuse, and can say you kinda didn't do it, maybe it will be dismissed.  If you're counting on the good graces of the judge because you're so charming, DON'T.  He may be sympathetic, but if you've done the crime...
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3202 on: June 13, 2018, 11:08:12 AM »
If you have exculpitory evidence, it can be dismissed.  If you have a good excuse, and can say you kinda didn't do it, maybe it will be dismissed.  If you're counting on the good graces of the judge because you're so charming, DON'T.  He may be sympathetic, but if you've done the crime...
Is there anything to lose if trying with a weak excuse? Anything to gain?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3203 on: June 13, 2018, 11:30:50 AM »
Is there anything to lose if trying with a weak excuse? Anything to gain?
I went once and was last, so I sat through everyone else's shpiels.
The judge found a problem with my ticket, and adjourned me for another year.
I learned that's it's either guilty or not.  And 'not' needs something real.
Since I have another moving violation, I hired a lawyer.  He's still in the delay, delay stage.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3204 on: June 13, 2018, 11:52:01 AM »
Is there anything to lose if trying with a weak excuse? Anything to gain?
court fees in most cases

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3205 on: June 13, 2018, 11:55:09 AM »
court fees in most cases
I don't think there are any additional fees for going to court.  If you lose, I think you pay what you would have paid by mail.
I reccomend being as late as possible/ getting to be later on the list, so  you can watch the procedings before yours to learn the process.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3206 on: June 13, 2018, 11:57:15 AM »
I don't think there are any additional fees for going to court.  If you lose, I think you pay what you would have paid by mail.
I reccomend being as late as possible/ getting to be later on the list, so  you can watch the procedings before yours to learn the process.
Not true IME. Then again these things vary from state to state or even from county to county. NYC may be different.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3207 on: June 13, 2018, 12:04:05 PM »
So in NYC how can a lawyer help. Assuming you are clearly proven guilty, since there are no plea bargains, you can't get less points or money... Is there any reason in the world to hire a lawyer?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3208 on: June 13, 2018, 12:24:09 PM »
So in NYC how can a lawyer help. Assuming you are clearly proven guilty, since there are no plea bargains, you can't get less points or money... Is there any reason in the world to hire a lawyer?
Lawyers seem to be able to make a deal.  I think they do it before court. The charge gets changed and the driver is found guilty of the lower charge.
Lawyers are expensive.
Change the trial date, and you'll get one nearly a year from now.  If you only have one ticket within 18 months, and your driving record is good, you can probably live down the points added to your license and you should just take your chances.
If your license can't take the points, the lawyer cost less than the cost of a guilty ticket. insurance rates.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3209 on: June 13, 2018, 02:10:29 PM »
Lawyers seem to be able to make a deal.  I think they do it before court. The charge gets changed and the driver is found guilty of the lower charge.
Lawyers are expensive.

What a corrupt world we live in.

But ur sure that w/o a lawyer the judge can't change the charge or find me guilty of speeding less miles per hour?

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« Reply #3210 on: June 13, 2018, 10:58:46 PM »
What a corrupt world we live in.

But ur sure that w/o a lawyer the judge can't change the charge or find me guilty of speeding less miles per hour?
That's my understanding.
@Hirshthg is a professional in this area.  He can give a definitive answer.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3211 on: June 14, 2018, 11:10:06 AM »
What a corrupt world we live in.

But ur sure that w/o a lawyer the judge can't change the charge or find me guilty of speeding less miles per hour?
They can change the charge, but they don't offer plea deals, you may be able to convince the judge that maybe the cops radar wasn't perfectly accurate, and really you were only going 34mph.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3212 on: June 14, 2018, 06:39:20 PM »
When showing up in nyc traffic court without a lawyer, is it likely to get the fine or points lowered. Can the judge decided on reduced penalty or is it only guilty/innocent (since there is no plea bargain in nyc) and can the penalty be raised?

In the TVB the "judges" are not able to adjudicate a reduction. That's because they are DMV hearing officers, not judges.

A lawyer can increase your chances of being found not guilty.

The problem with giving an excuse is is that you are often admitting to the offense. Even if the officer didn't make out a complete case, you can be filling in the holes. Usually a defense will not work unless it is a real emergency (your wife giving birth in the back seat) and you can document it. (birth certificate, etc.) Saying "I was talking to the hospital about my child" won't work. The ALJ will say "you should have pulled over."

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3213 on: June 15, 2018, 10:06:06 AM »
@Hirshthg since the tvb aren't judges, even if I proved the speedometer was broken, it wouldn't help since that means that I set by mistake, which may get sympathy, but not more.
A lawyer's only chance is to discredit the Po's version of the story?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3214 on: June 15, 2018, 07:28:21 PM »
@Hirshthg since the tvb aren't judges, even if I proved the speedometer was broken, it wouldn't help since that means that I set by mistake, which may get sympathy, but not more.
A lawyer's only chance is to discredit the Po's version of the story?
Even with a judge, speedometers are no longer a viable defense.

You aren't going to discredit the cop. You are trying to find a missing part to the story.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3215 on: June 27, 2018, 04:13:54 PM »
The ticket was issued in this state: NY- Town of Goshen
I have a license from: NY
I was clocked at 81 in a 65 zone on the 17.
Its my first violation.
Im not sure what to do.. I called a few lawyers and most want 350+ and most said they can push it down to a parking ticket. Does anyone have any advice for me?


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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3216 on: June 27, 2018, 05:40:55 PM »
The ticket was issued in this state: NY- Town of Goshen
I have a license from: NY
I was clocked at 81 in a 65 zone on the 17.
Its my first violation.
Im not sure what to do.. I called a few lawyers and most want 350+ and most said they can push it down to a parking ticket. Does anyone have any advice for me?
How much will a speeding ticket/points change your insurance rates?  Likely it will raise it $350 or more in the 1st year. 
Pay the lawyer and the parking ticket. And don't get caught speeding again.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3217 on: July 03, 2018, 02:43:15 AM »
When missing tvb court in nyc and u get letter to post bail to Avoid suspension.1- does that person himself need to come to court to post the bail and a get new court date ? 2-does it have to be tvb court stated on letter or can be any tvb court thanks

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3218 on: July 03, 2018, 07:38:23 AM »
The ticket was issued in this state: NY- Town of Goshen
I have a license from: NY
I was clocked at 81 in a 65 zone on the 17.
Its my first violation.
Im not sure what to do.. I called a few lawyers and most want 350+ and most said they can push it down to a parking ticket. Does anyone have any advice for me?


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« Reply #3219 on: July 03, 2018, 01:58:52 PM »
When missing tvb court in nyc and u get letter to post bail to Avoid suspension.1- does that person himself need to come to court to post the bail and a get new court date ? 2-does it have to be tvb court stated on letter or can be any tvb court thanks
Anyone ?