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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

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Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New Jersey Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10 Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, or the advice of an attorney.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3360 on: February 11, 2019, 11:14:35 PM »
AFAF, got a speeding ticket in Staten Island for going 31 over,  is it worth pushing off for 2 years with a lawyer (heard its impossible to fight in Staten island)if only 2 points post to my NJ license or should i just plea guilty and pay the fine and hope that insurance wont go up? TIA
I had a 29 over in construction zone in Staten island and hired a lawyer there, it took 2 years but got the vase dismissed. PM me for lawyer info

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3361 on: February 11, 2019, 11:16:06 PM »
I had a 29 over in construction zone in Staten island and hired a lawyer there, it took 2 years but got the vase dismissed. PM me for lawyer info
What was the reason for the case being dismissed?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3362 on: February 11, 2019, 11:18:34 PM »
What was the reason for the case being dismissed?
Honestly not exactly sure, but I know the lawyer pushed it off a few times...he supposedly is the best in the business in Staten island. I got a letter in the mail from the state saying my case has been dismissed

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3363 on: February 11, 2019, 11:27:49 PM »
Honestly not exactly sure, but I know the lawyer pushed it off a few times...he supposedly is the best in the business in Staten island. I got a letter in the mail from the state saying my case has been dismissed
Curios what did you pay? 


 I always thought the officer needs to appear in court?
 I saw no zaychur of any officers in court? Is the officer needed only if you plead not guilty? 
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3364 on: February 12, 2019, 07:30:25 AM »
I paid 375 originally to the lawyer and another 45 each time it was pushed off (twice)
I never even asked how he got it off but I received a letter back from the state saying my case was dismissed and a check for 45 dollars from the state
Never felt so good as to getting a money back from the state.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3365 on: February 12, 2019, 10:56:17 AM »
I paid 375 originally to the lawyer and another 45 each time it was pushed off (twice)
I never even asked how he got it off but I received a letter back from the state saying my case was dismissed and a check for 45 dollars from the state
Never felt so good as to getting a money back from the state.
it might have been because the officer didn't show up, unless he had some serious evidence against the cop proving your innocence...
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« Reply #3366 on: February 12, 2019, 11:01:14 AM »
Curios what did you pay? 


 I always thought the officer needs to appear in court?
 I saw no zaychur of any officers in court? Is the officer needed only if you plead not guilty?
usually what happens is you go to court (or u send a lawyer) and they offer a plea bargain if you plea guilty, if you choose to decline the plea the judge sets a court date and the officer has to show up to testify against you, now if he dosn't show the judge will try to setup another court date and hope that the cop shows up after 2 or 3 times (every judge is diff) they will dismiss your case.
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« Reply #3367 on: February 12, 2019, 11:04:05 AM »
the crazy thing about NYC is that the court has no benefit from your plea bargain (in NYS the court gets the fine money) therefor they rarely offer plea bargains.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3368 on: February 12, 2019, 01:24:00 PM »
I paid 375 originally to the lawyer and another 45 each time it was pushed off (twice)
I never even asked how he got it off but I received a letter back from the state saying my case was dismissed and a check for 45 dollars from the state
Never felt so good as to getting a money back from the state.
a check from the state after u sped?! thats awesome!

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3369 on: February 13, 2019, 10:07:19 PM »
Got a 6 point speeding ticket in NYC. I have a NJ license, so only 2 points transfer to NJ. My question is: if I take a defensive driving course to get 2 points removed, will my insurance go up? Do they look at my NY driving record or only my NJ record?
Taking the Defensive driving course in NY will have no affect on the points transferred to NJ, and no affect on the fine (around $550).

AFAF, got a speeding ticket in Staten Island for going 31 over,  is it worth pushing off for 2 years with a lawyer (heard its impossible to fight in Staten island)if only 2 points post to my NJ license or should i just plea guilty and pay the fine and hope that insurance wont go up? TIA
If you push off for 2 years, then are convicted, your insurance will be affected starting from the conviction date. Not impossible, but difficult to fight. The fines are around $780 and the Staten Island Judge could suspend you for this ticket alone.

If I get a mv ticket with points in brooklyn and push of the ticket for 3 years will it show on the license or effect my insurance?
In NY, yes, for up to 4 years following the conviction. See the wiki.

Got a seat belt ticket in nyc for a 13 year old in the back seat by a red light, claimed in court that the child was exiting the vehicle by the red light i brought a witness as well. The judge told me that its not legal to exit the vehicle for a child that needs seat belt, i had to pullover to the curb, judge claims that even the car is on park its still called vehicle in operation. Can i appeal this decision? is it called operating a vehicle while you are by a red light and the car is on park?

If you made the argument at the hearing, you can raise it on appeal. Its a legal question, so the appeals board is likely to consider it, if you are correct.

I'm no lawyer but if you Google the "Drivers License Compact" there are 45 states which share all driver violations with each other. If both states are part of it, the state of the violation will report the violation to the home state. Different states have different systems of how to process these violations, whether to assess points or not and how many points to assess but the violation will transfer.  Ask a lawyer in your home state how they will process the violation.

Many states go beyond their obligations under the "Drivers License Compact." But check the wiki for information on whether points transfer to NY.

usually what happens is you go to court (or u send a lawyer) and they offer a plea bargain if you plea guilty, if you choose to decline the plea the judge sets a court date and the officer has to show up to testify against you, now if he dosn't show the judge will try to setup another court date and hope that the cop shows up after 2 or 3 times (every judge is diff) they will dismiss your case.
Not in NYC: no plea deals.
There was a recent cases where a higher court required dismissal after the officer not showing up a single time, without an excuse.

On a similar topic, Alan Simon is removed from the bench and the bar, due to how he spoke to people in court. https://www.lohud.com/story/news/local/rockland/spring-valley/2019/02/13/state-court-disbars-spring-valley-mayor-alan-simon-attorney/2862494002/

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3370 on: February 14, 2019, 03:04:40 PM »
In NYC after I pushed off my ticket twice, and now need to post a bond to push it off a third time do I need to have a good excuse?

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« Reply #3371 on: February 17, 2019, 02:06:55 AM »
In NYC after I pushed off my ticket twice, and now need to post a bond to push it off a third time do I need to have a good excuse?
nope, just post.
Next time they might suspend you during the adjournment.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3372 on: February 17, 2019, 08:50:06 PM »
What does this mean "might suspend you during the adjournment"? it's a 2 point ticket.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3373 on: February 25, 2019, 11:25:20 AM »
I have a u turn moving violation in NYC. I already pushed off the hearing once hoping it would make the points not affect my insurance but then I read the wiki here 😢. The hearing is coming up again. Should I just plead guilty online and pay etc or is it smart to miss the hearing and hope the cop doesn’t show up either (or that wouldn’t help if I don’t show)? Any guidance = greatly appreciated and a like 😊
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3374 on: February 25, 2019, 11:28:57 AM »
Where can I find info on fighting a ticket in writing in the state of Florida or if that's at all possible?