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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3480 on: May 19, 2019, 04:22:35 PM »
Have no clue. It's my first offense b"h (that I got caught)
Sorry to hear..
 I guess it's time to invest in a radar gun. ;)

 Theoretically speaking if a radar gun can save you $1000s of dollars by avoiding the cops, then why would an average driver not spend the 300-400$ and buy one? 
And it's legal to use in ny/nj, IIRC there's only 3-4 states or so that don't allow it.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3481 on: May 19, 2019, 04:29:27 PM »
Sorry to hear..
 I guess it's time to invest in a radar gun. ;)

 Theoretically speaking if a radar gun can save you $1000s of dollars by avoiding the cops, then why would an average driver not spend the 300-400$ and buy one? 
And it's legal to use in ny/nj, IIRC there's only 3-4 states or so that don't allow it.
Don't have my own car, so I don't find it that important. It was in a rental car at 330 am.
Officer was rude, and didn't wanna talk a word because it was raining...

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« Reply #3482 on: May 19, 2019, 04:39:22 PM »
Don't have my own car, so I don't find it that important. It was in a rental car at 330 am.
Officer was rude, and didn't wanna talk a word because it was raining...
Lol, you should have kept your window shut and start rummaging through your glove compartment to find your insurance! Lol. Give him a shower.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3483 on: May 19, 2019, 04:40:44 PM »
Lol, you should have kept your window shut and start rummaging through your glove compartment to find your insurance! Lol. Give him a shower.
I was so scared being it was me first time being pulled, and I didn't wanna get cuffed in the rain...

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3484 on: May 19, 2019, 11:34:48 PM »
The ticket was issued in this state: NY
The ticket is returnable to in this Town/Village/City: Can find out tomorrow, was in Brooklyn (8th Ave and 65th Street)
I have a license from: OH
Commercial/Residential: Res
Ticket one: cell phone
Accident?: no
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I want information on "hire an attorney":
I want both: yes, both.
Am I correct to conclude the points won't transfer to OH so it's just the 138 fine?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3485 on: May 24, 2019, 09:54:10 AM »
I think that if there was no radar you can bring a witness to testify that they saw you driving at a certain speed and you weren't speeding.
officers are trained to tell ur speed with just their eyes radar is really only as a confirmation the judge looks at it the same 99% of the time
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« Reply #3486 on: May 24, 2019, 09:57:44 AM »
Sorry to hear..
 I guess it's time to invest in a radar gun. ;)

 Theoretically speaking if a radar gun can save you $1000s of dollars by avoiding the cops, then why would an average driver not spend the 300-400$ and buy one? 
And it's legal to use in ny/nj, IIRC there's only 3-4 states or so that don't allow it.
true ive using radar for years, but its far from fool proof cops used methods to avoid u detecting them like on/off method or visuals u still gotta be alert and look out for them but for most people i think its worth the investment
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3487 on: May 24, 2019, 10:18:44 AM »
officers are trained to tell ur speed with just their eyes radar is really only as a confirmation the judge looks at it the same 99% of the time
Officers are trained to tell speed visually but almost always rely on their lazer/radar systems.

In theory they claim their training is sufficient and they can tell speed visually, but you don't have to be a genius to know that no officer can differentiate 60-65 on a highway. If you were to fight such a ticket in court with any expert testimony you would most likely win.

The reason you would need expert testimony or an appeal is because most local judges ate biased. The get paid by the same few people that pay the police officer.

In cities where a speed limit is 25, officers do use their eyes to tell if someone is speeding but again they'll have a hard time if you were to fight it.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3488 on: May 24, 2019, 10:20:23 AM »
If a officer were to give me a ticket based on a radar reading and after debunking or bringing proof his radar wasn't sufficient he will resort to visually confirming my speed, I'll be more then pleased.
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« Reply #3489 on: May 24, 2019, 10:21:01 AM »
Officers are trained to tell speed visually but almost always rely on their lazer/radar systems.

In theory they claim their training is sufficient and they can tell speed visually, but you don't have to be a genius to know that no officer can differentiate 60-65 on a highway. If you were to fight such a ticket in court with any expert testimony you would most likely win.

The reason you would need expert testimony or an appeal is because most local judges ate biased. The get paid by the same few people that pay the police officer.

In cities where a speed limit is 25, officers do use their eyes to tell if someone is speeding but again they'll have a hard time if you were to fight it.
3 of my tickets were visual wasn't able to win on any and lawyer told me the judge will trust the cops visual over ur expert or witness
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3490 on: May 24, 2019, 11:02:13 AM »
3 of my tickets were visual wasn't able to win on any and lawyer told me the judge will trust the cops visual over ur expert or witness

In NYC or outside NYC?

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« Reply #3491 on: May 24, 2019, 11:13:49 AM »
1 in the city 1 state and 1 nj
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« Reply #3492 on: May 24, 2019, 11:38:29 AM »
As said a court will almost always trust the officers, but if you were to have expert testimony it would create a scenario where some1 can actually prove the cop wrong and the judge will have to accept it.

Most times it isn't financially worth the fight, but sometimes it may, such as if you have 5 points and dont want to go above the 6 and get the fee charged yearly ETC.

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« Reply #3493 on: May 27, 2019, 12:01:15 AM »
FYI in many places cops need a certain training to "eyeball you" where I live there are only 2 that are. So, it ain't automatic.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3494 on: May 28, 2019, 08:32:45 PM »
The ticket was issued in this state: NY
The ticket is returnable to in this Town/Village/City: NYC
I have a license from: NY
Commercial/Residential: Res
Ticket one: speeding, 80 in 50 zone (belt pkwy)
PS. no radar or laser device mentioned on ticket.
I want information on "do it yourself": -
I want information on "hire an attorney": -
I want both: True
any advice would be highly appreciated. TIA
Ticket is not $138. They are not telling you about the $300 state DRAT that Albany sends you, after you pay the $138.

NY will report to OH. OH people tell me that the points transfer, but check with an OH attorney.

You can plead not guilty on line, and get another year to think about it.

You can appear yourself at trial (bit of a trip from OH) or you can hire an attorney which is a coin flip on getting the ticket dismissed.

FYI in many places cops need a certain training to "eyeball you" where I live there are only 2 that are. So, it ain't automatic.
NY seems to allow "on the job training" for speed recognition, so they just say I have been a police officer for x years, which was my training.

Anyone have any advise for a ticket on i190 Buffalo going to Buffalo traffic violations
I was going 74 in 55 zone.
I have a Ontario license.
Should I higher a lawyer? Who? Or Plead guilty? Not guilty?
You can probably get all 4 points off with a lawyer. I don't know how people do on their own there. Its a fairly new court.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3495 on: May 29, 2019, 12:03:18 PM »

You can appear yourself at trial (bit of a trip from OH) or you can hire an attorney which is a coin flip on getting the ticket dismissed.


Is appearing yourself in NYC significantly less likely to be successful that the coin-flip odds when paying for a NYC attorney?

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« Reply #3496 on: May 29, 2019, 02:33:42 PM »
Is appearing yourself in NYC significantly less likely to be successful that the coin-flip odds when paying for a NYC attorney?
So they say. I don't have statistics.

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« Reply #3497 on: May 29, 2019, 10:35:32 PM »
So they say. I don't have statistics.

I've heard that with representing yourself in NYC traffic (kangaroo) court you have a snowball's chance in hell of getting the ticket dismissed.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3498 on: May 29, 2019, 10:52:42 PM »
I've heard that with representing yourself in NYC traffic (kangaroo) court you have a snowball's chance in hell of getting the ticket dismissed.
I've gotten a case dismissed. And the guy before me got it knocked down (don't remember exactly.. but it was a win for him).
You get lucky. The judge (Jewish) was nice. (It was taanis ester and he wished me an easy fast :))

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« Reply #3499 on: May 30, 2019, 10:45:52 AM »
I've gotten a case dismissed. And the guy before me got it knocked down (don't remember exactly.. but it was a win for him).
You get lucky. The judge (Jewish) was nice. (It was taanis ester and he wished me an easy fast :))

That's quite interesting. On what basis did you get it dismissed in the five boroughs? The officer who issued you the ticket showed up in court with you?

And when you say the other guy got it knocked down, what do you mean? In NYC its always either guilty or innocent; they don't reduce the infraction.

I'm wondering how much your odds increase of getting a NYC moving violations found not guilty if you retain an attorney versus representing yourself.
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