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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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The ticket was issued in this state:
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Ticket one:
Ticket two(ex):
Accident?:
I want information on "do it yourself":
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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

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Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New Jersey Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10 Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, or the advice of an attorney.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3570 on: October 04, 2019, 09:33:27 AM »


A NJ, local, moving violation, for "careless driving" it has a list of prices on the back,  and doesn't require court. Will it also have points if plead guilty? Will it share with NY? Does go on record? Any suggestions on fighting it?

Thank you.


Points? Yes 2
NY???
Record? Yes
Fighting? You can plea in most cases to a no pointer but "can" be more money. 
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3571 on: October 07, 2019, 05:18:06 AM »


Points? Yes 2
NY???
Record? Yes
Fighting? You can plea in most cases to a no pointer but "can" be more money.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3572 on: October 08, 2019, 11:03:14 AM »
If I have a NJ license and I get 11 points within 18 months in NY, will they suspend my driving privileges in NY?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3573 on: October 09, 2019, 11:54:10 PM »
If I have a NJ license and I get 11 points within 18 months in NY, will they suspend my driving privileges in NY?
Yes, I had it. 2 6 point tickets in SI and was suspended for 30 days.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3574 on: October 10, 2019, 11:26:25 AM »
If I have a NJ license and I get 11 points within 18 months in NY, will they suspend my driving privileges in NY?

Follow-up question: Can I take defensive driving in NY to avoid suspension?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3575 on: October 24, 2019, 12:19:45 PM »
I received a violation in the Town of Ramapo for Improper Use of Horn (VTL 3751A) I would like to fight it. Knowing it doesn't carry points either way I'm assuming I have nothing to lose when fighting it, correct?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3576 on: October 24, 2019, 03:49:05 PM »
I received a violation in the Town of Ramapo for Improper Use of Horn (VTL 3751A) I would like to fight it. Knowing it doesn't carry points either way I'm assuming I have nothing to lose when fighting it, correct?

just your time.

Follow-up question: Can I take defensive driving in NY to avoid suspension?

yes, but you need to make sure the course applies your fictitious NYS CID. 

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3577 on: October 30, 2019, 04:16:18 PM »
I received a violation in the Town of Ramapo for Improper Use of Horn (VTL 3751A) I would like to fight it. Knowing it doesn't carry points either way I'm assuming I have nothing to lose when fighting it, correct?
They need to start issuing those tickets in Brooklyn...

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« Reply #3578 on: October 30, 2019, 04:17:18 PM »
They need to start issuing those tickets in Brooklyn...

The system would crash
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3579 on: October 31, 2019, 04:08:07 PM »
The ticket was issued in this state: NJ
The ticket is returnable to in this Town/Village/City: Chester Township
I have a license from: NY
Commercial/Residential: Residential
Ticket one: 39.4-98   48mph in a 35 zone
Accident?: No
I want information on "do it yourself": Yes
I want information on "hire an attorney": Unlikely

I got this ticket on Chol Hamoed. From my limited research, it looks like I could go down myself and get it down to 0 points with a $250ish surcharge. I know the points won't go on my NY license, but what about my insurance rates?

If it's going to affect my NY insurance, it would be worth the time and money. But if not, am I correct that it makes the most sense just to plead guilty online and pay the $95 ticket fee?

If I want to plead not guilty, I have to tell the court by tomorrow, so please advise ASAP, thanks.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3580 on: October 31, 2019, 08:50:45 PM »
The ticket was issued in this state: NJ
The ticket is returnable to in this Town/Village/City: Chester Township
I have a license from: NY
Commercial/Residential: Residential
Ticket one: 39.4-98   48mph in a 35 zone
Accident?: No
I want information on "do it yourself": Yes
I want information on "hire an attorney": Unlikely

I got this ticket on Chol Hamoed. From my limited research, it looks like I could go down myself and get it down to 0 points with a $250ish surcharge. I know the points won't go on my NY license, but what about my insurance rates?

If it's going to affect my NY insurance, it would be worth the time and money. But if not, am I correct that it makes the most sense just to plead guilty online and pay the $95 ticket fee?

If I want to plead not guilty, I have to tell the court by tomorrow, so please advise ASAP, thanks.
Just pay the $95, it does not go onto your record.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3581 on: November 03, 2019, 01:53:26 PM »
Got a ticket in Ardmore Alabama for 24 over in a 35.
Went to court took defensive driving class for $100 and ticket was dismissed.
License is Michigan.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3582 on: November 19, 2019, 10:33:03 PM »
Got a speeding ticket in Tioga county. Seems I can pay $240 and take the online course to get ticket waived. I have a certificate from a course I took with a NJ school 11 months back. Will that work? I'm not using an attorney

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3583 on: November 20, 2019, 09:08:04 AM »
Got a speeding ticket in Tioga county. Seems I can pay $240 and take the online course to get ticket waived. I have a certificate from a course I took with a NJ school 11 months back. Will that work? I'm not using an attorney

Best bet is to call the court and ask. You have nothing to lose

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3584 on: December 01, 2019, 10:51:34 AM »
Anyone has a recommendation for a lawyer in Queens who can help with a ticket? I am 100% in the right, and itís a very simple case, so not looking to spend $$$.