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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3640 on: June 07, 2020, 11:41:46 AM »
Speeding camera ticket in NYC, Bronx. 38mph in 25 (school zone).

I know about this camera, and I'm always really careful, so I find it unlikely I was doing 38 there, but I doubt there's a way to fight that.

Any validity to the following arguments:

There's currently no school at all? (ticket does say it's year round, though)

More concerning, and this is likely to be more general abuse on their part: Violation was 5/18, the ticket was issued 5/20, and recipients need to respond within 30 days of issue date, or receive additional fines. Envelope is postmarked 6/2. It's almost like they're trying to pressure people to not consider any options.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3641 on: June 08, 2020, 03:16:46 PM »
if given the choice between a "informal hearing" with a magistrate, which can be appealed to the court, or going straight to a formal hearing in front of a judge is there any sense in choosing the latter?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3642 on: June 14, 2020, 02:47:54 PM »
I received 2 tickets from the camera's on ocean parkway (Speeding) there are no points and they are 50$ each. But if there was no school why were they on? Would I win on those grounds?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3643 on: June 14, 2020, 06:00:56 PM »
Earlier in this thread, no too far back, someone informed us that 'school zone' was the legal pretext for setting up the cameras, but had no legal bearing on the tickets.
In other words, we're out of luck even if there's no school.


My son go tone on 14th ave at 48 st.  But the ticket says 14th and 49th st.  I'm  hoping that will get the ticket dismissed.  (The picture clearly shows him at 48th. )
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3644 on: June 23, 2020, 07:48:40 PM »
Got a ticket the officer wrote the wrong year of the car (2002 instead of 2020) any chance of fighting it?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3645 on: June 23, 2020, 08:50:14 PM »
Got a ticket the officer wrote the wrong year of the car (2002 instead of 2020) any chance of fighting it?
no, it has no grounds to fighting the violation. Unless you have a way to tie it in, nearly impossible

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3646 on: June 23, 2020, 09:25:29 PM »
Got a ticket the officer wrote the wrong year of the car (2002 instead of 2020) any chance of fighting it?
Having wrong info about your vehicle may be a reason to get it dismissed. Definitely try.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3647 on: July 14, 2020, 01:56:46 PM »
I got a Parking Ticket by 185 Hasbrouck Dr. Woodbourne,NY 12788 to the Fallsburg Justice Court, does anyone have an idea where and how to fight this or if there is someone out there to fight this ticket?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3648 on: August 11, 2020, 11:24:51 AM »
Friend got a ticket for speeding in Vermont (10 - 20 over the limit) NY license, does he have to worry about points showing on his license? I know NY used to not record the points, sometime I know is claiming otherwise that the states signed something blah blah
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3649 on: August 28, 2020, 03:20:05 PM »
Friend got a ticket for speeding in Vermont (10 - 20 over the limit) NY license, does he have to worry about points showing on his license? I know NY used to not record the points, sometime I know is claiming otherwise that the states signed something blah blah

Did you find any answers to this? I have a NY license and just got a speeding ticket in Ohio. From what I can tell from the NY DMV (https://dmv.ny.gov/tickets/about-nys-driver-point-system), I shouldn't get any points on my NY license from pleading guilty, though your post made me nervous. Separately, even if I don't get points in NY, does anyone know if my insurance (USAA) will still find out about it and raise my rates?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3650 on: September 09, 2020, 11:21:28 AM »
My son and I both received camera violations for going over 25 mph in a school zone in NYC. Both were in August, and his was at 7pm. Are these even worth fighting?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3651 on: September 09, 2020, 02:22:43 PM »
My son and I both received camera violations for going over 25 mph in a school zone in NYC. Both were in August, and his was at 7pm. Are these even worth fighting?
I have not had any luck.

defenses i tried:

COVID - EO was not allowing schools to be operating
camera not calibrated
summer hours, and school building not housing a summer program

guilty

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3652 on: September 09, 2020, 02:42:10 PM »
I have not had any luck.

defenses i tried:

COVID - EO was not allowing schools to be operating
camera not calibrated
summer hours, and school building not housing a summer program

guilty

That's what I was thinking. I am probably just going to pay the fine.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3653 on: September 10, 2020, 11:39:14 PM »
I have not had any luck.

defenses i tried:

COVID - EO was not allowing schools to be operating
camera not calibrated
summer hours, and school building not housing a summer program

guilty
Did they explain why they felt your defenses were not valid?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3654 on: September 11, 2020, 08:57:03 AM »
Did they explain why they felt your defenses were not valid?

because it's about revenue but not about school safely

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3655 on: September 11, 2020, 12:37:49 PM »
If I posting bail in nyc for  traffic violation(miss court date pending suspension),does it have to be in same tvb court as says on paper ??
Also in Brooklyn south lawyers have success in fighting cell phone ticket ?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3656 on: September 11, 2020, 03:06:20 PM »
because it's about revenue but not about school safely
That we all know, but how do they justify it?

Yes, I know government=legal theft.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3657 on: September 11, 2020, 03:29:36 PM »
That we all know, but how do they justify it?

Yes, I know government=legal theft.
Justify?? Lol.. Welcome to NYC.
NYC goverment = blatant theft.
DoB, Sanitation dept. etc etc etc.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3658 on: September 15, 2020, 02:45:26 PM »
I got a tkt for 56 on a 30 road, 300$ in FL
Does someone know if makes sense to fight it ? And if yes how ?

Or best to choose option 2 pay half and do the course online ? Cop said no point i choose second option ..


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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3659 on: September 15, 2020, 02:50:37 PM »
Did anyone else have tickets pre covid that were not paid, and during covid they just disappeared from the online payment system?
My wife and i had 3 tickets on 2 seperate cars and they all just disappeared...