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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3680 on: November 11, 2020, 09:08:13 AM »
Many times you can do that, but usually it's something that can still affect your record like delaying traffic. In NY, most prosecutors will offer a parking ticket which does nothing to your record.
I don't know, I just know that this time it was a fine that didn't impact record or insurance. The officer thought I was on my phone and swerving. It was my wife on the phone and I dodge swerve. Leonia was more than happy to make it a parking issue and not split the money with the state.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3681 on: November 11, 2020, 04:04:45 PM »
NJ is not like NY, they don't offer parking tickets for moving violations.
you can plea guilty to unsafe driving which is 0 points in NJ. I believe there's a $250 surcharge. and is most likely what will be offered by prosecutor.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3682 on: November 11, 2020, 04:39:26 PM »
you can plea guilty to unsafe driving which is 0 points in NJ. I believe there's a $250 surcharge. and is most likely what will be offered by prosecutor.
Unsafe driving is far from a parking ticket. You can definitely expect your insurance premiums to increase and while it is 0 points, if you get 3 within 10 years you get 4 or 6 points IIRC. By the time you get done you can expect to pay over $400 upfront, besides for the increase in insurance.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3683 on: November 11, 2020, 04:42:21 PM »
Unsafe driving is far from a parking ticket. You can definitely expect your insurance premiums to increase and while it is 0 points, if you get 3 within 10 years you get 4 or 6 points IIRC. By the time you get done you can expect to pay over $400 upfront, besides for the increase in insurance.
is the increase in insurance worse than a careless driving?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3684 on: November 11, 2020, 04:43:41 PM »
is the increase in insurance worse than a careless driving?
It shouldn't be worse that careless driving, it's a less severe version of the same violation, but you can debate if it's worth the extra money upfront.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3685 on: November 11, 2020, 04:46:02 PM »
Received a speeding ticket from a speed cam. No fine as the first one is a freebie.  :)
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3686 on: November 11, 2020, 05:09:45 PM »
Received a speeding ticket from a speed cam. No fine as the first one is a freebie.  :)
It must not have been in IL, there's no way they would ever not collect money.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3687 on: November 11, 2020, 08:00:02 PM »
It must not have been in IL, there's no way they would ever not collect money.
Not Israel, it was Chicago.  :)
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3688 on: November 14, 2020, 11:35:13 PM »
Got my first violation after 4 years of driving. Ticket is in NY. I was going a 77 in a 55 and my ticket was written 77 in a 55. Any advice, I've never dealt with this before? TIA

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3689 on: November 15, 2020, 06:45:31 AM »
Got my first violation after 4 years of driving. Ticket is in NY. I was going a 77 in a 55 and my ticket was written 77 in a 55. Any advice, I've never dealt with this before? TIA
In NYC?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3690 on: November 15, 2020, 05:21:39 PM »
In NYC?
No some random town off i84

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3691 on: November 16, 2020, 11:23:17 AM »
No some random town off i84

Which town and more importantly, which court is the ticket returnable in?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3692 on: November 16, 2020, 11:33:42 AM »
Which town and more importantly, which court is the ticket returnable in?
Newburgh. I'm not sure what you mean by "returnable"

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3693 on: November 16, 2020, 11:36:25 AM »
Newburgh. I'm not sure what you mean by "returnable"
Maybe he means if you wanted to pay at location or if to were going to court.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3694 on: November 16, 2020, 03:23:38 PM »
Newburgh. I'm not sure what you mean by "returnable"

The question about the Town is which Town you were in when you got the ticket. Returnable means which Court you need to appear in (they are not always the same).

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3695 on: November 16, 2020, 04:09:02 PM »
I got a ticket for speeding near st louis Mo. I am scheduled for a pre trial next week. Court will be online therefore they aren't inclined to let me postpone. Any ideas of a local lawyer/advocate that would be able to help in such a situation? Either to defend me or to at least push it off?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3696 on: November 16, 2020, 04:41:59 PM »
I got a ticket for speeding near st louis Mo. I am scheduled for a pre trial next week. Court will be online therefore they aren't inclined to let me postpone. Any ideas of a local lawyer/advocate that would be able to help in such a situation? Either to defend me or to at least push it off?
What's your concern? losing?
In most cases, only 2 points will get passed across state lines to your NY or NJ license.
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« Reply #3697 on: November 16, 2020, 05:19:10 PM »
What's your concern? losing?
In most cases, only 2 points will get passed across state lines to your NY or NJ license.
First of all I don't want even 2 points:)

Secondly would this apply the same way to a Florida license?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3698 on: December 06, 2020, 06:05:39 PM »
Hi everyone. I disappeared for a while.
in re being on a Gas Station, it that consider private property or something and it beyond the jurisdiction of the cop?
Being that the gas station is open to the public, the VTL applies.

Discovery exists in traffic court?
New law in NY: you get discovery and statutory speedy trial time. This is very new in NY.

A NJ, local, moving violation, for "careless driving" it has a list of prices on the back,  and doesn't require court. Will it also have points if plead guilty? Will it share with NY? Does go on record?
See the wiki. No and no.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3699 on: December 06, 2020, 06:49:05 PM »

See the wiki. No and no.

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In NJ you get 2 points, if they transfer is a different question.
New law in NY: you get discovery and statutory speedy trial time.

Even in NYC?
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