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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3780 on: July 22, 2021, 03:55:22 PM »
I have a cell phone ticket in nyc (Brooklyn south) 4 years old pushed off twice, my understanding is that the points won’t be added to my New York license because too old .but I do have a another pending ticket nyc 3 points within 18 month of this ticket  so woulg possibly pay driver assessment fee ,which I’m fine to pay main thing is no suspension or insurance raise ,is there any real benefit of hiring a lawyer what’s the likelihood in  Brooklyn south ? And what I’m even gaining ? Thanks

I'm not sure what you're assuming to be true is correct. There are 2 types of points you can get. One is the points on your actual license. And the other is points on your insurance (this is assessed based on your driving record). Points are only applied to your license for a period of 18 months from the date of the offense. So you're in the clear with the 4 year old ticket, and it sounds like the other ticket too since that one is also more than 18 moths old (based on your description). In other words, even if you are found guilty on both those tickets, you will not get any additional points on your license, assuming neither ticket occurred within the past 18 months.

However, the conviction remains on your driving record for a period of (I believe) 36 months from the date of conviction. This means that your insurance would likely go up if you're found guilty, unfortunately. And it would likely remain that way for 36 months.

There is a point in continuing to postpone your court date as much as possible (I know you said you've done it twice, but bear with me). First of all, as happened with me recently, the cop retired and they automatically dismissed the ticket. So the longer you postpone it, the greater the chance of something like that happening.

There are a few advantages to a lawyer. 1. They usually can postpone more than you can.  2. You don't have to go to the court and, for example, miss work 3. They might win the case. You can possibly win the case too, but they have a much better chance. That would save you the insurance going up. Now, if the lawyer will charge you $500, it may not be worthwhile at this point. But worth looking into.

Terri Kalker is a well-known lawyer in Brooklyn South. She doesn't always argue the cases herself, but I know some people request her to specifically. not sure they always honor that request.

Anyway, I'm no expert, so take everything I'm saying as unverified and ask a lawyer to confirm.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3781 on: August 13, 2021, 03:38:08 PM »
Anyone have experience with a speeding ticket from a ranger in a national park, that goes through the Central Violations Bureau of US District Court? It's for 68 in a 45, with a fine of $145, and my inclination is just to pay it as long as it won't have any repercussions on my driving record or insurance.

I have a NY license, which I know doesn't give points for tickets from other states. But what about a federal ticket? And is there any reason insurance would find out about it more than an out-of-state ticket that I've heard they usually don't come across? Also, any reason that pleading guilty to a federal misdemeanor would come back to haunt me in the future?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3782 on: August 13, 2021, 05:07:48 PM »
Anyone have experience with a speeding ticket from a ranger in a national park, that goes through the Central Violations Bureau of US District Court? It's for 68 in a 45, with a fine of $145, and my inclination is just to pay it as long as it won't have any repercussions on my driving record or insurance.

I have a NY license, which I know doesn't give points for tickets from other states. But what about a federal ticket? And is there any reason insurance would find out about it more than an out-of-state ticket that I've heard they usually don't come across? Also, any reason that pleading guilty to a federal misdemeanor would come back to haunt me in the future?
Its the same as getting it from the state.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3783 on: August 13, 2021, 05:55:52 PM »
Its the same as getting it from the state.

From the state where the violation occurred (Montana in this case), or from the state where I live (NY)? And assuming the former, I should just go ahead and plead guilty and pay the $ and not have to think about it again?

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Moving violation points out of state
« Reply #3784 on: August 16, 2021, 08:32:20 PM »
I got a speeding ticket in Colorado today- doing 87 in a 60 zone. Potentially 4-6 points on license. Does anyone know how many points will transfer to my NY license? I have heard that out of state violations will only transfer 2 points regardless of the offense. I'm trying to figure out if I should try to cut a deal with the prosecutor or not...

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Re: Moving violation points out of state
« Reply #3785 on: August 16, 2021, 09:19:38 PM »
https://dmv.ny.gov/tickets/about-nys-driver-point-system
Out-of-state convictions
If you are convicted of a traffic violation in another state or country, points are not added to your New York State driving record, unless the violation occurred in Ontario or Quebec.

New York State has a reciprocal agreement with Quebec and Ontario. Traffic violation convictions that occur in these provinces are recorded on your New York State driver record, and the convictions have the same effect and carry the same points as convictions that occur in New York State. This can affect your driver violation point total and Driver Responsibility Assessment.
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Re: Moving violation points out of state
« Reply #3786 on: August 17, 2021, 01:24:49 AM »
Does anyone know how many points will transfer to my NY license? I have heard that out of state violations will only transfer 2 points regardless of the offense.
That’s to NJ. I don’t think out of state points transfer to NY.

Keep in mind that contrary to the popular myth, insurance doesn’t really (only) look at points, they also look at the underlying violation. If you’re convicted it will probably affect you, points transferring or not.
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Re: Moving violation points out of state
« Reply #3787 on: August 17, 2021, 01:38:07 AM »
If you are convicted of a traffic violation in another state or country, points are not added to your New York State driving record, unless the violation occurred in Ontario or Quebec.
In case that isn't clear enough no out of state points do not transfer to ny.
That’s to NJ. I don’t think out of state points transfer to NY.

Keep in mind that contrary to the popular myth, insurance doesn’t really (only) look at points, they also look at the underlying violation. If you’re convicted it will probably affect you, points transferring or not.
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Re: Moving violation points out of state
« Reply #3788 on: August 17, 2021, 09:12:10 AM »

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Re: Moving violation points out of state
« Reply #3789 on: August 17, 2021, 02:55:16 PM »
That’s to NJ. I don’t think out of state points transfer to NY.

Keep in mind that contrary to the popular myth, insurance doesn’t really (only) look at points, they also look at the underlying violation. If you’re convicted it will probably affect you, points transferring or not.
I don't think this is correct, an out of state violation that doesn't transfer is never recorded on your record.
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Re: Moving violation points out of state
« Reply #3790 on: August 18, 2021, 10:47:37 PM »
I don't think this is correct, an out of state violation that doesn't transfer is never recorded on your record.
I personally saw an MVR (Motor Vehicle Report) from someone with a NY license that paid multiple NJ speeding tickets, it was entirely clean.

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Re: Moving violation points out of state
« Reply #3791 on: August 19, 2021, 12:28:29 AM »
That’s to NJ. I don’t think out of state points transfer to NY.


So for a transfer to NJ it doesn't matter how egregious the speeding was since only 2 points will transfer?

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Re: Moving violation points out of state
« Reply #3792 on: August 19, 2021, 06:42:30 AM »
So for a transfer to NJ it doesn't matter how egregious the speeding was since only 2 points will transfer?
Correct.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3793 on: August 23, 2021, 11:29:40 PM »
Do points transfer from SC to NY?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3794 on: August 24, 2021, 12:32:32 AM »
Do points transfer from SC to NY?
No i posted the source in a previous post here it is .
https://dmv.ny.gov/tickets/about-nys-driver-point-system
Out-of-state convictions
If you are convicted of a traffic violation in another state or country, points are not added to your New York State driving record, unless the violation occurred in Ontario or Quebec.

New York State has a reciprocal agreement with Quebec and Ontario. Traffic violation convictions that occur in these provinces are recorded on your New York State driver record, and the convictions have the same effect and carry the same points as convictions that occur in New York State. This can affect your driver violation point total and Driver Responsibility Assessment.
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Re: Moving violation points out of state
« Reply #3795 on: August 24, 2021, 08:11:45 AM »
So for a transfer to NJ it doesn't matter how egregious the speeding was since only 2 points will transfer?
correct, however insurance may be able to see what the violation was.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3796 on: September 30, 2021, 01:16:27 AM »
Are there required elements to a moving violation ticket on NYS? Is failure to list vehicle make grounds for dismissal? (Ticket for headlights not illuminated after dark. Orangeburg court.)

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3797 on: October 22, 2021, 04:07:45 PM »
Any apps like winit that fight a speeding camera ticket? Or a lawyer? Or just pay it and realize that's part of living in NYC! :P
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3798 on: December 07, 2021, 03:20:38 PM »
Does an Israeli with Israeli  license need to pay a stop sign ticket in ny state? will he have any trouble next time he comes to USA?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3799 on: December 07, 2021, 04:04:47 PM »
Does an Israeli with Israeli  license need to pay a stop sign ticket in ny state? will he have any trouble next time he comes to USA?
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Camera ticket?