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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

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Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New Jersey Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10 Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, or the advice of an attorney.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #525 on: August 05, 2013, 09:43:54 PM »
I got a meter parking ticket in Brooklyn while paying the muni-meter. The ticket and the muni receipt are a minute a part. I submitted a copy of it online as evidence and was found guilty. Do I have any recourse?
I can see why having a receipt wouldn't get you off, if I saw a cop writing a ticket I'd also go run to buy a receipt, you would need proof that you just arrived then.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #526 on: August 05, 2013, 11:49:10 PM »
I can see why having a receipt wouldn't get you off, if I saw a cop writing a ticket I'd also go run to buy a receipt, you would need proof that you just arrived then.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #527 on: August 06, 2013, 02:06:41 AM »
It's from the date of the ticket. Not the conviction. I run records for insurance companies.
Many insurance agents get their inputs wrong, we see it all the time. Can you show us a copy of the company policy?
You say you work for "insurance companies" more than one? Do you just run the records or do you enter the codes for the risk of the drivers
Question for you:

Is there any record of a ticket if there were no points issued? Signing up for insurance they want me to report all tickets I got, but I don't know all of them.
Depends. Some tickets do go on the record like a NY adult seat belt but don't have points. You can buy a copy of your driving record online if you really want to know. I would not be so honest if I was not obligated to be, and I would tell them I do not recall but don't take my word for it, and let them chase the record down. If you report a conviction that is not on the record the insurance company is allowed to use it against you.

Got a ticket in NJ for doing 64 in a 50 zone with a Quebec license. Points don't transfer. Any reason to fight the 2 points?
cheaper than 95$? how about if i want to one day get a NJ license, will the points be on my "file"?
I know that the speed with transfer from NY to Quebec, I would be surprised to hear that is doesn't transfer from NJ to Quebec. If you don't have a NJ license then the NJ MVC will not record the conviction.
 

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #528 on: August 06, 2013, 02:29:58 AM »
I know that the speed with transfer from NY to Quebec, I would be surprised to hear that is doesn't transfer from NJ to Quebec. If you don't have a NJ license then the NJ MVC will not record the conviction.
 
NY does. NJ doesn't. Confirmed with the SAAQ
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #529 on: August 06, 2013, 02:35:07 AM »
Many insurance agents get their inputs wrong, we see it all the time. Can you show us a copy of the company policy?
You say you work for "insurance companies" more than one? Do you just run the records or do you enter the codes for the risk of the drivers

Are you saying that the insurance brokers and agents are wrong?

Are you saying that every ticket is on the record for over 3 years after the conviction? Forget about telling us to read long boring statutes to prove you are right, if I look up my record can I see it?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #530 on: August 06, 2013, 02:37:26 AM »
I got a meter parking ticket in Brooklyn while paying the muni-meter. The ticket and the muni receipt are a minute a part. I submitted a copy of it online as evidence and was found guilty. Do I have any recourse?

Appeal it.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #531 on: August 07, 2013, 09:01:53 PM »
Are you saying that the insurance brokers and agents are wrong?

Are you saying that every ticket is on the record for over 3 years after the conviction? Forget about telling us to read long boring statutes to prove you are right, if I look up my record can I see it?
Um yes I am saying that they are sometimes wrong. And yes if you look at your record, it will be there for 3 years, and then until the next January. The only question is what the insurance companies will do about it. Go to anyone else on google and give them $20 or so and you will see it yourself (if you have anything there).

I see records every day, and there are convictions from 2010 and on.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #532 on: August 12, 2013, 03:26:12 AM »
Um yes I am saying that they are sometimes wrong. And yes if you look at your record, it will be there for 3 years, and then until the next January. The only question is what the insurance companies will do about it. Go to anyone else on google and give them $20 or so and you will see it yourself (if you have anything there).

I see records every day, and there are convictions from 2010 and on.

Where do you see the convictions?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #533 on: August 12, 2013, 11:40:52 AM »
Appeal it.

And you may lose on appeal too. Been there.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #534 on: August 12, 2013, 05:11:55 PM »
Question for you:

Is there any record of a ticket if there were no points issued? Signing up for insurance they want me to report all tickets I got, but I don't know all of them.
Sorry, I just saw your post. I don't monitor this site so PM for direct questions but to answer your question. Depends on the insurance company. Most in fact almost all will surcharge if you have a ticket regardless if there were points associated with it

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #535 on: August 12, 2013, 07:24:32 PM »
Where do you see the convictions?
On your NY driver's abstract which you can't see online without paying a fee and getting it as a email ($12+), or you can dial in to https://search.dmv.state.ny.us/winjahtml/default.asp if you have a account and pay $7 per search. If you are a government agency and have a government account (like a village court or district attorney) you get them for free. I presume that insurance agencies pay the statutory $7 Mr. YSP?

]Most in fact almost all will surcharge if you have a ticket regardless if there were points associated with it
This is correct. And the question of where are these convictions without points kept, in the same place as the convictions with points! In the DMV MVC file on you, called your driver's abstract (history).

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #536 on: August 12, 2013, 07:26:00 PM »
the DMV MVC file on you, called your driver's abstract (history).
NY/NJ keep files on out of state licenses?
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #537 on: August 12, 2013, 07:32:35 PM »
NY/NJ keep files on out of state licenses?
No, unless you got in ticket in state, in which case NJ no, NY yes.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #538 on: August 13, 2013, 11:23:41 AM »
And you may lose on appeal too. Been there.

He lost all ready! I don't know if you realized!

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #539 on: August 13, 2013, 03:58:49 PM »
If I get a red light (not camera) ticket in Mass., can my insurance go up?
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