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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

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Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New Jersey Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10 Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, or the advice of an attorney.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #540 on: August 13, 2013, 05:20:43 PM »
If I get a red light (not camera) ticket in Mass., can my insurance go up?
Yes

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #541 on: August 14, 2013, 12:46:50 AM »
Yes

Thanks. I think I should add that I'm from NJ (license and insurance), does that make a difference? Also, I've read that Mass. doesn't transfer points to other states, would that affect anything?
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #542 on: August 14, 2013, 12:55:05 AM »
I got an alternate ticket in Brooklyn
I tried to dispute it on the grounds that the closest sign to the car was obstructed, and located 70ft away from the car.

They responded guilty because "one authorized regulatory sign anywhere on a block, which is the area of sidewalk between one intersection and the next, shall be sufficient notice of the restriction(s) in effect on that block."

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #543 on: August 14, 2013, 01:24:46 AM »
I got an alternate ticket in Brooklyn
I tried to dispute it on the grounds that the closest sign to the car was obstructed, and located 70ft away from the car.

They responded guilty because "one authorized regulatory sign anywhere on a block, which is the area of sidewalk between one intersection and the next, shall be sufficient notice of the restriction(s) in effect on that block."

Even if it doesn't sound normal this is still the NYC laws, rules & regulations. It doesn't cost to appeal it and you have nothing to lose. Just don't use the "only one sign 70 feet away" argument. 

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #544 on: August 14, 2013, 01:27:49 AM »
Even if it doesn't sound normal this is still the NYC laws, rules & regulations. It doesn't cost to appeal it and you have nothing to lose. Just don't use the "only one sign 70 feet away" argument.

The other issue was it was posted on a thick utility pole ; so it wasn't visible from the top half of the block( 70+ft)

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #545 on: August 14, 2013, 01:33:04 AM »
The other issue was it was posted on a thick utility pole ; so it wasn't visible from the top half of the block( 70+ft)

Did you take pictures of the sign?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #546 on: August 14, 2013, 01:41:38 AM »
Did you take pictures of the sign?

Yup

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #547 on: August 14, 2013, 01:45:59 AM »
Yup

I would say when appealing that the ALJ did not address all my defenses. They just ignored some of them.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #548 on: August 14, 2013, 02:19:23 AM »
I would say when appealing that the ALJ did not address all my defenses. They just ignored some of them.

Thanks

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #549 on: August 21, 2013, 09:32:26 PM »
Does anyone have experience with getting a speeding ticket from a speed camera in Tucson, AZ? People online report ignoring it and nothing happening.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #550 on: August 22, 2013, 12:43:50 AM »
Does anyone have experience with getting a speeding ticket from a speed camera in Tucson, AZ? People online report ignoring it and nothing happening.
Even if nothing is happening today when you ignore it, one day the laws there may change, and you could end up with a more expensive reciprocation.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #551 on: August 22, 2013, 12:45:31 AM »
Just got a " failing to signal when turning right " , is this points? I'm living in ny

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #552 on: August 22, 2013, 12:46:40 AM »
Just got a " failing to signal when turning right " , is this points? I'm living in ny
If you got the violation in NYS it is 2 points.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #553 on: August 22, 2013, 02:54:24 AM »
I got a parking ticket in Manhattan for "failure to display muni receipt".
(It was displayed,  but it was upside down  :( )

They wrote the wrong car "make" on the ticket.
Does that do anything for me as far as fighting the ticket?
Update : I mailed in the ticket with the meter receipt and wrote a small letter explaining what happened.
The ticket was dismissed!

Thanx "Tax"  and all others that helped out. 

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #554 on: August 22, 2013, 10:41:55 AM »
I got a red light camera ticket in Ft lauderdale FL with a rented car, And i live in NY. Anybody with experience of fighting it or maybe ignoring it?