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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

***Join the push to change the system in NYC. https://www.change.org/p/new-york-change-traffic-courts-in-new-york-city-nyc-tvb ***

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New Jersey Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10 Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, or the advice of an attorney.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #675 on: October 27, 2013, 09:53:49 AM »

Just imagine we have a separate ticket thread for each street in NY/NJ.

Ticket on 18 Ave in Brooklyn
Ticket on 51 St in Brooklyn
Etc.

We would need a special board for just tickets!! Lol.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #676 on: October 27, 2013, 09:57:55 AM »
I have other threads to moderate, takes too much of my time.
Don't have the time for another one.
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Re: Ticket on Cary Ct in Brooklyn
« Reply #677 on: October 27, 2013, 10:36:48 AM »
There are no parking signs there but people donít see it and park there all the time and it ends up costing them big time.

There are no parking signs on the left side not on the right

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Re: Ticket on Cary Ct in Brooklyn
« Reply #678 on: October 27, 2013, 10:37:25 AM »
Next to Eichlers? Last time I was there, there were signs that it's for fire only, and also street markings IIRC.

No fire signs

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #679 on: October 27, 2013, 02:48:56 PM »

but the facts on the grounds are, NJ is a great place to plead guilty to tickets for out of state drivers.
Why? I think NJ reciprocates with other states.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #680 on: October 27, 2013, 04:13:42 PM »
Sorry to hear this. It's 5 points in NY and there are no plea deals there. Just plain trials. I think they are worth fighting.
I have a nj license. Is it true that since nj doesnt give points for a cell phone ticket no points will transfer from ny?
If thats the case wouldnt it be worth it to just pay?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #681 on: October 27, 2013, 05:16:26 PM »
I have a nj license. Is it true that since nj doesnt give points for a cell phone ticket no points will transfer from ny?
If thats the case wouldnt it be worth it to just pay?
My understanding is that NJ always counts a out of state infraction which they has as well as a 2 point out of state conviction. I am under the assumption that  you would get 2 points in NJ for the NY ticket.
For free you can call any NJ attorney and ask them for a "free consultation" to find out if it transfers.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #682 on: October 27, 2013, 05:17:33 PM »
Why? I think NJ reciprocates with other states.
I think I wrote the answer to this once every page on this thread starting from around page 25. Feel free to look up on my history.
Just imagine we have a separate ticket thread for each street in NY/NJ.

Ticket on 18 Ave in Brooklyn
Ticket on 51 St in Brooklyn
Etc.
+1
Being that every driver is unique and able to drive however they like, they really are different threads/topics....

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #683 on: October 27, 2013, 05:54:21 PM »
I think I wrote the answer to this once every page on this thread starting from around page 25.
I still dont understand why i should plead guilty in NJ if i'm out of state driver? NJ will still tell the state that issued my license, that i received a summons Ö

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #684 on: October 27, 2013, 11:03:45 PM »
I still dont understand why i should plead guilty in NJ if i'm out of state driver? NJ will still tell the state that issued my license, that i received a summons Ö
But the question is what does your state do with that information. NYS does nothing with it.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #685 on: October 29, 2013, 03:04:15 PM »
My understanding is that NJ always counts a out of state infraction which they has as well as a 2 point out of state conviction. I am under the assumption that  you would get 2 points in NJ for the NY ticket.
For free you can call any NJ attorney and ask them for a "free consultation" to find out if it transfers.
I posted on an online lawyers forum and was told that no points transfer from NY to NJ for a ny based cell phone ticket.
I called the NJMVC and they also told me that (not that those reps know anything)

I still plan to call my lawyer just to make sure, but definitely seems like nothing should transfer.

If anyone else has info on this please chime in.

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Re: Ticket on Cary Ct in Brooklyn
« Reply #686 on: October 29, 2013, 07:14:13 PM »
There are no parking signs on the left side not on the right
No fire signs

There are FIRE ZONE NO PARKING signs on both sides.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #687 on: October 29, 2013, 11:14:55 PM »
I posted on an online lawyers forum and was told that no points transfer from NY to NJ for a ny based cell phone ticket.
I called the NJMVC and they also told me that (not that those reps know anything)

I still plan to call my lawyer just to make sure, but definitely seems like nothing should transfer.

If anyone else has info on this please chime in.
I guess I should look into this. It would be a incredible advantage at the table if this is true.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #688 on: October 29, 2013, 11:40:15 PM »
I guess I should look into this. It would be a incredible advantage at the table if this is true.
I spoke a lawyer based in ny (something like ticket fighter) he was sure that there is 2 points transfered.

My lawyer in nj said the violation will transfer over but nj will NOT give me points since they don't have points for this violation. Insurance though may go up, as the insurance companies can see the violation. (Same was said by Mrs. Shain, for those that know who she is)

Still have to decide if its worth to fight it, I was told it's a 50/50 chance to get it dissmissed. Staten Island is a tough court.

Definitely don't want insurance to go up. And if I get another ticket in NY, I would have 7 points, meaning a $300 surcharge plus $75 a point.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #689 on: October 29, 2013, 11:49:19 PM »


Still have to decide if its worth to fight it, I was told it's a 50/50 chance to get it dissmissed. Staten Island is a tough court.

Definitely don't want insurance to go up. And if I get another ticket in NY, I would have 7 points, meaning a $300 surcharge plus $75 a point.

Staten Island is not 50/50.