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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

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Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New Jersey Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10 Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, or the advice of an attorney.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #690 on: October 30, 2013, 12:37:47 AM »
Staten Island is not 50/50.
Less??
Guy I spoke to said 50/50
What do you think?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #691 on: October 30, 2013, 12:45:55 AM »
Less??
Guy I spoke to said 50/50
What do you think?

If he says he has 50% chance tell him next time he has a case in Staten Island you want to go along with him and watch him. If you see he wines more then 20% of his cases give me his number I want to send him a lot of clients.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #692 on: October 30, 2013, 11:29:27 AM »
I got a parking ticket in Monsey yesterday.  Thing is, the ticket was issued by a Spring Valley cop and I'm summoned to the Spring Valley village court, but I was parked outside of the village border.  I was parked in Monsey (an unicorporated hamlet) which is under the jurisdiction of the Town of Ramapo. 

I don't think the Spring Valley cop has jurisdiction to issue parking violations outside of Spring Valley.  Any ideas of how to fight this?
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #693 on: October 30, 2013, 11:53:52 AM »
I got a parking ticket in Monsey yesterday.  Thing is, the ticket was issued by a Spring Valley cop and I'm summoned to the Spring Valley village court, but I was parked outside of the village border.  I was parked in Monsey (an unicorporated hamlet) which is under the jurisdiction of the Town of Ramapo. 

I don't think the Spring Valley cop has jurisdiction to issue parking violations outside of Spring Valley.  Any ideas of how to fight this?
There are places where Spring Valley and Ramapo overlap. You should check to see that it was truly outside on Spring Valley. I don't think the cop would accidentally wander outside of Spring Valley.

They have all kinds of problems with the municipality code in Spring Valley.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #694 on: October 30, 2013, 11:55:35 AM »
I spoke a lawyer based in ny (something like ticket fighter) he was sure that there is 2 points transfered.

My lawyer in nj said the violation will transfer over but nj will NOT give me points since they don't have points for this violation. Insurance though may go up, as the insurance companies can see the violation. (Same was said by Mrs. Shain, for those that know who she is)

Still have to decide if its worth to fight it, I was told it's a 50/50 chance to get it dissmissed. Staten Island is a tough court.

Definitely don't want insurance to go up. And if I get another ticket in NY, I would have 7 points, meaning a $300 surcharge plus $75 a point.

Here is what my guy in NJ says "Unclear. MVC told me no points but who knows if that person knew what they were talking about.

By the way we heard from a judge recently that starting in January NJ will start assessing points for cell phone tickets. I think the first ticket is 2 points and then a second one 3 or 5 points (not sure). This could change the answer to the above question."

I think that if NJ does not have it in their code it should not transfer. Who wants to test it out?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #695 on: October 30, 2013, 12:23:19 PM »
There are places where Spring Valley and Ramapo overlap. You should check to see that it was truly outside on Spring Valley. I don't think the cop would accidentally wander outside of Spring Valley.

They have all kinds of problems with the municipality code in Spring Valley.
Both Monsey and Spring Valley are within the Town of Ramapo (though a portion of Spring Valley is in the Town of Clarkstown). 

This was in VG which is right on the border.  I called Ramapo, they told me VG is in Spring Valley, which is very strange to me, because the zip is 10952 (Monsey), not 10977 (SV). 

Indeed, the tax map seems to indicate that VG is in SV.  So I'm grasping at straws.  Anyone?
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #696 on: October 30, 2013, 05:40:39 PM »
Tax map has nothing to do with court/police jurisdiction.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #697 on: October 30, 2013, 06:44:18 PM »
Both Monsey and Spring Valley are within the Town of Ramapo (though a portion of Spring Valley is in the Town of Clarkstown). 

This was in VG which is right on the border.  I called Ramapo, they told me VG is in Spring Valley, which is very strange to me, because the zip is 10952 (Monsey), not 10977 (SV). 

Indeed, the tax map seems to indicate that VG is in SV.  So I'm grasping at straws.  Anyone?
VG is in SV. You pay taxes to SV.
Zip code has nothing to do with Jurisdiction, it is for the Federal Post office to figure out where you are.  You can send mail to VG with zip 10977 also:)

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #698 on: October 30, 2013, 07:31:43 PM »
Here is what my guy in NJ says "Unclear. MVC told me no points but who knows if that person knew what they were talking about.

By the way we heard from a judge recently that starting in January NJ will start assessing points for cell phone tickets. I think the first ticket is 2 points and then a second one 3 or 5 points (not sure). This could change the answer to the above question."

I think that if NJ does not have it in their code it should not transfer. Who wants to test it out?
I'm still trying to decide what to do.
But lets say I plead guilty today, and no points will come to NJ because they don't give for this violation.
When January comes (if they start giving points), will I get the points then? Or will nothing come because at the time of the violation they didn't give points?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #699 on: October 30, 2013, 09:04:43 PM »
I'm still trying to decide what to do.
But lets say I plead guilty today, and no points will come to NJ because they don't give for this violation.
When January comes (if they start giving points), will I get the points then? Or will nothing come because at the time of the violation they didn't give points?
One would hope that they will not go back through the records and ad points for prior convictions.
reasons that should not happen 1 these records are done by hand.
2 Once the record comes from NY to NJ they throw it out, and don't actively scan the NY record constantly

Then again if one day they transfer over to automated computer based systems that may change.

Think about when NYS changed the rules (this January) and decided to add up all of your traffic convictions over the last 25 years when  you though they would go away after 4...

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #700 on: October 31, 2013, 03:14:42 PM »
Tax map has nothing to do with court/police jurisdiction.
You're not making any sense, Meshugener.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #701 on: October 31, 2013, 04:36:29 PM »
You're not making any sense, Meshugener.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #702 on: November 04, 2013, 11:24:26 AM »
i have a car registered out of state and got pulled over, i told the cop it belongs to family member that was by me now,anyway the cop ran my license and found a few tickets over the last few years so he gave me a ticket for failure to change addressthe question is what can i do now?any ideas how to get out of this?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #703 on: November 04, 2013, 01:05:06 PM »
i have a car registered out of state and got pulled over, i told the cop it belongs to family member that was by me now,anyway the cop ran my license and found a few tickets over the last few years so he gave me a ticket for failure to change addressthe question is what can i do now?any ideas how to get out of this?

First of all which state and which court is your ticket?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #704 on: November 04, 2013, 02:38:23 PM »
First of all which state and which court is your ticket?
NY,Ramapo