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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

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Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New Jersey Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10 Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, or the advice of an attorney.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #705 on: November 05, 2013, 02:00:22 AM »
i have a car registered out of state and got pulled over, i told the cop it belongs to family member that was by me now,anyway the cop ran my license and found a few tickets over the last few years so he gave me a ticket for failure to change addressthe question is what can i do now?any ideas how to get out of this?
Failing to change address is a minor traffic infraction. You can plead it down yourself at the Monday night zoo, however they may want you to show them first that you did in fact change your address.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #706 on: November 05, 2013, 03:47:07 PM »
My NY cell phone ticket is not showing up online. I got the ticket on October 25, and I'm supposed to plead within 15 days.
What's the normal amount of time it takes for it to show up??
Is the time frame actually only 15 days, usually you have 30. And I heard something like you really do have 30 days even though it says 15. Anyone with info about this?

I actually have a NJ license so the ticket doesn't have enough room for my full license number (nj has more digits) I think he wrote the rest of the numbers on some other place of the license. Any chance thre ticket didn't go through?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #707 on: November 05, 2013, 04:39:24 PM »
I got a ticket for turning left at an intersection where it was illegal to do so. $138 and 2 points. I called a lawyer who said he is familiar with the officer who gave me the ticket, has a high success rate in dealing with this officer and would charge me $290 to fight it.

Does that sound like a good price from anyone's experience?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #708 on: November 05, 2013, 04:49:17 PM »
I got a ticket for turning left at an intersection where it was illegal to do so. $138 and 2 points. I called a lawyer who said he is familiar with the officer who gave me the ticket, has a high success rate in dealing with this officer and would charge me $290 to fight it.

Does that sound like a good price from anyone's experience?
I'm assuming you get the ticket in NYC; the price sounds very fair.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #709 on: November 05, 2013, 05:13:57 PM »
I'm assuming you get the ticket in NYC; the price sounds very fair.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #710 on: November 05, 2013, 05:29:14 PM »
I got a ticket last week in Brooklyn for "failing to yield right of way for pedestrian in a crosswalk with a signal" basically what happened was the cop was on the opposite side of the 2 way street i was turning in to with his lights on blocking my vision, and i haven't noticed the pedestrian till i reached the crosswalk and once i reached the crosswalk the pedestrian stopped and showed me to go.
The ticket is 3 points and i have a clear record, i have called up a lawyer and they want $300 upfront with a 65% chance of wining it, so my question is as follows why do people hire a lawyer for the DMV points or for insurance increase? because if it's for DMV points i can take a defensive driving course and get the points off, and if the reason is for insurance increase, will my insurance go up if i'm insured for 3 years already with a clean record over one violation?     

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #711 on: November 05, 2013, 05:43:04 PM »
+1

I'm assuming you get the ticket in NYC; the price sounds very fair.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #712 on: November 05, 2013, 05:47:34 PM »
Its very hard to know if your insurance will go up. I would talk to my broker. It properly depends on which insurance company too.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #713 on: November 05, 2013, 05:58:25 PM »
Its very hard to know if your insurance will go up. I would talk to my broker. It properly depends on which insurance company too.
When I got my ticket,I spoke to my insurance and they told how much it would go up if I don't fight the ticket

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #714 on: November 05, 2013, 06:47:49 PM »
When I got my ticket,I spoke to my insurance and they told how much it would go up if I don't fight the ticket

And how much is the increase?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #715 on: November 05, 2013, 07:57:04 PM »
Failing to change address is a minor traffic infraction. You can plead it down yourself at the Monday night zoo, however they may want you to show them first that you did in fact change your address.
my question was not on the ticket as much as how i can get out of the whole mess (not changing address)

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #716 on: November 05, 2013, 08:08:14 PM »
my question was not on the ticket as much as how i can get out of the whole mess (not changing address)

That is hirshtik, he always changes the question.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #717 on: November 05, 2013, 09:26:57 PM »
My NY cell phone ticket is not showing up online. I got the ticket on October 25, and I'm supposed to plead within 15 days.
What's the normal amount of time it takes for it to show up??
Is the time frame actually only 15 days, usually you have 30. And I heard something like you really do have 30 days even though it says 15. Anyone with info about this?

I actually have a NJ license so the ticket doesn't have enough room for my full license number (nj has more digits) I think he wrote the rest of the numbers on some other place of the license. Any chance thre ticket didn't go through?

The 15 day thing is a suggested time line. You have 30 days from when the cop enters it into the computer.

Your NJ license ID number is not what you use. If you enter your name, date of birth, along with the ticket number, then the DMV.NY.GOV site will give you a option that they will email you when the ticket is entered. If you are not getting that option you are doing something wrong.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #718 on: November 05, 2013, 09:29:05 PM »
I got a ticket for turning left at an intersection where it was illegal to do so. $138 and 2 points. I called a lawyer who said he is familiar with the officer who gave me the ticket, has a high success rate in dealing with this officer and would charge me $290 to fight it.

Does that sound like a good price from anyone's experience?

Attorneys in the city charge anywhere from $100 to $500, however you need to find out how good they are. Check their online ratings and reviews.

You should also call your insurance broker and find out how much the conviction will cost your insurance over the next 4 years.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #719 on: November 05, 2013, 09:32:57 PM »
I got a ticket last week in Brooklyn for "failing to yield right of way for pedestrian in a crosswalk with a signal".
The ticket is 3 points and i have a clear record, why do people hire a lawyer for the DMV points or for insurance increase? because if it's for DMV points i can take a defensive driving course and get the points off, and if the reason is for insurance increase, will my insurance go up if i'm insured for 3 years already with a clean record over one violation?     

The class does not take points off in NYS. The main issue if you have 1 violation is the insurance increase over the next 4 years. Call your broker and ask them what this conviction would do to you. If you get a few tickets you can be looking at a suspension.