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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

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Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New Jersey Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10 Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, or the advice of an attorney.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #720 on: November 05, 2013, 09:34:06 PM »
my question was not on the ticket as much as how i can get out of the whole mess (not changing address)


Don't get caught again:)

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #721 on: November 05, 2013, 09:35:02 PM »
That is hirshtik, he always changes the question.
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Always change the target:)

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #722 on: November 05, 2013, 09:43:48 PM »
Your NJ license ID number is not what you use. If you enter your name, date of birth, along with the ticket number, then the DMV.NY.GOV site will give you a option that they will email you when the ticket is entered. If you are not getting that option you are doing something wrong.
I've been entering my name, dob, ticket number and email. It says that it doesn't match their records, no option to get an email when something is entered.
Does that mean the cop didn't process the ticket yet?

Thanks for your help

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #723 on: November 05, 2013, 10:44:21 PM »
I've been entering my name, dob, ticket number and email. It says that it doesn't match their records, no option to get an email when something is entered.
Does that mean the cop didn't process the ticket yet?

Thanks for your help

No it could mean that the cop entered your ticket information in wrong, or that you are entering your information in wrong. Try using the last 4 of your ss as well.

If that doesn't work you may need to call the DMV: say goodby to another hour of your life...

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #724 on: November 05, 2013, 10:55:03 PM »
I got my first ticket since moving to Cleveland.  A cop stopped me on S.Taylor Rd going north from Cedar.  He claimed I was doing 39 in a 25 mph zone.  (Just passed Taylor Commons - home of Shimon's famous Fish & Poultry).  Does it pay to try and fight these things?  The ticket says he clocked me on radar.  It looks like the charge is $155 but I don't see where it says anything about points.  Does anyone know if there are points for this sort of thing?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #725 on: November 05, 2013, 11:22:35 PM »
No it could mean that the cop entered your ticket information in wrong, or that you are entering your information in wrong. Try using the last 4 of your ss as well.

If that doesn't work you may need to call the DMV: say goodby to another hour of your life...
I did the last 4 of my social.
If the cop entered the info wrong does that mean that I'm off the hook?
I don't wanna call the DMV and incriminate myself!! (of waste an hour of my life)

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #726 on: November 05, 2013, 11:43:30 PM »
I got my first ticket since moving to Cleveland.  A cop stopped me on S.Taylor Rd going north from Cedar.  He claimed I was doing 39 in a 25 mph zone.  (Just passed Taylor Commons - home of Shimon's famous Fish & Poultry).  Does it pay to try and fight these things?  The ticket says he clocked me on radar.  It looks like the charge is $155 but I don't see where it says anything about points.  Does anyone know if there are points for this sort of thing?
I speed like a demon in Beachwood. Always wonder when I'm going to get a ticket.
But I'm mush more careful in UH/CH.  You guys have some nasty cops.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #727 on: November 06, 2013, 12:05:34 AM »
The class does not take points off in NYS
are you sure about that? Because it clearly says on the DMV site that a defensive driving course takes off up to 4 points received within the 18 months of completing the class
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #728 on: November 06, 2013, 12:09:18 AM »
Its very hard to know if your insurance will go up. I would talk to my broker. It properly depends on which insurance company too.
I have geico, and I deal with them directly

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #729 on: November 06, 2013, 12:14:28 AM »
i moved to uh about seven months ago i have been driving for over 8 yrs i have driven in over 11 states with thousands of highway miles i have never gotten a ticket but since i have moved here i have gotten pulled over 4 time and gotten 3 tickets only got out of fourth bec i had a fop card wich was confiscated the cops in uh su and ch are crazy anfd the tickets are very expensive especially if you want to get the points off they charge you more to amend the ticket i paid 325 in shaker heights court for stop sign 220or so in su for speeding if u going to get ticket do it in beachwoood from what i here the fines are much cheaper probably for the same reason the propert taxes are

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #730 on: November 06, 2013, 12:17:01 AM »
i moved to uh about seven months ago i have been driving for over 8 yrs i have driven in over 11 states with thousands of highway miles i have never gotten a ticket but since i have moved here i have gotten pulled over 4 time and gotten 3 tickets only got out of fourth bec i had a fop card wich was confiscated the cops in uh su and ch are crazy anfd the tickets are very expensive especially if you want to get the points off they charge you more to amend the ticket i paid 325 in shaker heights court for stop sign 220or so in su for speeding if u going to get ticket do it in beachwoood from what i here the fines are much cheaper probably for the same reason the propert taxes are
Those cities are so mismanaged they need to grab money from anywhere on everywhere.
Congrats on raising your taxes yet again to rebuild perfectly functional schools in a failing district.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #731 on: November 06, 2013, 12:17:42 AM »
I got my first ticket since moving to Cleveland.  A cop stopped me on S.Taylor Rd going north from Cedar.  He claimed I was doing 39 in a 25 mph zone.  (Just passed Taylor Commons - home of Shimon's famous Fish & Poultry).  Does it pay to try and fight these things?  The ticket says he clocked me on radar.  It looks like the charge is $155 but I don't see where it says anything about points.  Does anyone know if there are points for this sort of thing?
there are points but if u go in the proscutor will ammend it but there will be a additional charge depending

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #732 on: November 06, 2013, 12:18:23 AM »
I speed like a demon in Beachwood. Always wonder when I'm going to get a ticket.
But I'm mush more careful in UH/CH.  You guys have some nasty cops.
Yea, this cop was pretty nasty.  There was just no talking to him, no sense of humor :).  The court site says two points.  Think i should just pay it?  I don't know any lawyers who handle these things here.


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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #733 on: November 06, 2013, 12:19:42 AM »
Yea, this cop was pretty nasty.  There was just no talking to him, no sense of humor :).  The court site says two points.  Think i should just pay it?  I don't know any lawyers who handle these things here.
I know a lawyer here who is awesome at this stuff but does it for me as a favor, this isn't what he does professionally.  Helped me avoid points a few times.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #734 on: November 06, 2013, 12:21:30 AM »
Those cities are so mismanaged they need to grab money from anywhere on everywhere.
Congrats on raising your taxes yet again to rebuild perfectly functional schools in a failing district.
tell me about it i live in apt seriously considering beachwood over uh just for the taxes issue id rather pay more for the house then pump money in to a crazy city