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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

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Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New Jersey Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10 Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, or the advice of an attorney.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #750 on: November 11, 2013, 02:59:33 AM »
In some states (IDK about NY) they make it a felony if you go over a certain speed (or a certain mph above the limit).

Come on speeding 25 over the limit is bad but not a felony.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #751 on: November 11, 2013, 03:00:47 AM »
Come on speeding 25 over the limit is bad but not a felony.
I edited my post.  Many times a felony charge will be added (e.g. reckless driving, reckless endangerment, etc.)

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #752 on: November 11, 2013, 03:06:48 AM »
In some states it's a misdemeanor.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #753 on: November 11, 2013, 03:09:07 AM »
In some states it's a misdemeanor.
I think it is a misdemeanor in most states.  But there are some (at least VA) that add on a felony charge, too.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #754 on: November 11, 2013, 05:30:16 AM »
Random thought: If ObamaCare would be for auto insurance and people with 'pre-existing' conditions wouldn't be charged more...
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #755 on: November 11, 2013, 09:48:53 AM »
Yup
so just keep on trying to push off the court date BTW in NY that's what lawyers do also request a deposition

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #756 on: November 11, 2013, 09:56:56 AM »
so just keep on trying to push off the court date BTW in NY that's what lawyers do also request a deposition
These days tickets from state troopers come with supporting depositions

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #757 on: November 11, 2013, 12:05:07 PM »
so just keep on trying to push off the court date BTW in NY that's what lawyers do also request a deposition


These days tickets from state troopers come with supporting depositions
when pleading not guilty, I should check off I want a disposition?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #758 on: November 11, 2013, 01:05:06 PM »
so just keep on trying to push off the court date BTW in NY that's what lawyers do also request a deposition
Was once told by a cop that since he wrote the deposition (extra work) for me, he made sure to show up to court and be as tough as possible on me... Could just be that one guy, but there is a con to requesting it...

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #759 on: November 11, 2013, 02:06:28 PM »
so just keep on trying to push off the court date BTW in NY that's what lawyers do

Just wait till Hirshtik comes and says everybody in the industry is wrong, you don't gain anything by pushing off.


also request a deposition
Remember have a limited amount of time after the ticket that you can request it. So do it ASAP.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #760 on: November 11, 2013, 08:58:11 PM »
Yea they do have points.  I pleaded No Contest and asked the judge to waive  the points because I have a clean driving record.  Then I had to sit & wait 10 minutes while they pulled my record but when she saw it came up clean she said I won't get points in OH but she can't vouch for what NY will do when they get the record.
Of course she can't. I can however vouch that NYS won't give you any points for OH:)

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #761 on: November 11, 2013, 09:01:19 PM »
Just wait till Hirshtik comes and says everybody in the industry is wrong, you don't gain anything by pushing off.

Remember have a limited amount of time after the ticket that you can request it. So do it ASAP.

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Speeding ticket depositions are easy to print. All they have is the information on the ticket. All it does in annoy the cop. Seatbelts on the other hand if you have a few are good to ask for.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #762 on: November 11, 2013, 09:06:01 PM »
Just got my first speeding ticket, going 90 in 65. I got it on the thruway near Bethlehem (albany). Any suggestions?

6 point speeds carry around $700 in fines aside from the insurance increase and 6 points.

You can go there yourself and offer to plead to 20 over, and get only 4 points and $400 or you can hire an attorney to try and plea it down to 3 points with the same fine, or no points and the same fine. (or something in between).

I don't think Bethlehem will require you to come down if you have a lawyer even with the 90 MPH, nor do I think the judges give jail time for this speed there.

There is no pleading to the DA as Albany county doesn't do that for Bethlehem.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #763 on: November 11, 2013, 09:06:59 PM »
I got a cell phone ticket and dont have the ticket number, I think the court date is for tomorrow for 2:30 but not 100 percent sure, what should i do? is there a number i can call where i can talk to a live person to confirm the time. I Don't want to take a day off work if I Don't need to.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #764 on: November 11, 2013, 09:07:18 PM »
6 point speeds carry around $700 in fines aside from the insurance increase and 6 points.

You can go there yourself and offer to plead to 20 over, and get only 4 points and $400 or you can hire an attorney to try and plea it down to 3 points with the same fine, or no points and the same fine. (or something in between).

I don't think Bethlehem will require you to come down if you have a lawyer even with the 90 MPH, nor do I think the judges give jail time for this speed there.

There is no pleading to the DA as Albany county doesn't do that for Bethlehem.

GL
So you recommend just going with the lawyer?