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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

***Join the push to change the system in NYC. https://www.change.org/p/new-york-change-traffic-courts-in-new-york-city-nyc-tvb ***

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New Jersey Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10 Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, or the advice of an attorney.
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1200 on: June 10, 2014, 10:03:48 AM »
How can I check my criminal record? (Sorry for all the questions.)
I hope you had a good yom tov.
http://www.dmv.org/criminal-records.php
No it's not free.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1201 on: June 10, 2014, 10:06:14 AM »
Got a cell phone ticket two years back in NY, on a Florida license, will the points post to my FL license even though it isn't illegal to talk on a phone in FL, secondly (i know this has been discussed) if i push it off long enough is there any chance it wont be caught by my insurance company?
FL will consider it a 3 point careless driving ticket if it is reported to them. Technically NYS DMV should not report  this violation out of state pursuant to the rules of the commissioner 512. What they (DMV) are actually doing is another question.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1202 on: June 10, 2014, 10:17:48 AM »
Texting is no doubt the worst of the bunch, but I was talking more about talking on the phone. The ticket lumps them together if I'm not mistaken, which probably makes sense from a practical enforcement standpoint, but less so from a 'fairness' standpoint.

You're not getting a ticket for not paying attention to the road, the ticket is for talking on your cell phone, and you can get one even if you are absolutely paying attention to the road. Say I place a call at a red light and now I'm driving along with one hand on the wheel and one hand holding my phone to my ear. How is that any different from driving a manual transmission car (ie only one hand on the wheel), while talking to a passenger in the car? You're definitely more likely to be distracted at some point in the process, but it can be done with less distraction than other non-ticketed activities.

I don't want you to get the wrong idea, when I drive I use the bluetooth in my car, and I certainly don't text. But if I didn't have built-in bluetooth, I'd be much less likely to connect to an earpiece (especially on short rides), and probably pick up a call.

IMHO anything involving distracted driving e.g. talking on the phone (I don't know about anyone else, but every time i'm on the highway whenever there is some else veering into my lane and I have to honk, invariably they are on the phone) texting should be a MINIMUM of 5 points probably a suspension. When one is speeding, at least if they have their attention on the road and are in the left lane, what is the big deal ? It should just be a fine !!!

I am going to didto skyguy918 and add to his point. Currently the NYPD is giving out texting tickets even if you are using a blue tooth because technically the phone is a portable hand held electronic device. So even though the blue tooth is supposed to be be an exception, good luck fighting to keep it in place.

If you are stopped at a red light, and you answer a phone call and even put the call on speaker that is a 5 point violation and if you are a new driver you can get suspended for a year.

While I also think people zig zagging across the high way at 65 MPH which skyping should be shot, the laws were written to blanket anyone checking their wrist watch for the time, anyone changing their axillary radio volume of channel, people stopped at a 5 minute red light, people talking on speaker phone with the phone in their shirt pocket, people who can drive safely which talking with the phone next to their ear, and taxi drivers responding on their radio.

I think that due to the public outcry against the texting accidents we have overshot the mark into this endlessly ticket blitz largely supported by the state revenue intake.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1203 on: June 10, 2014, 04:35:03 PM »
Does calli ticket go on my NYS driving record ?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1204 on: June 10, 2014, 07:20:21 PM »

Does calli ticket go on my NYS driving record ?
2 points transfer

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Re: Traffic Tickets
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1206 on: June 10, 2014, 11:45:35 PM »
Does calli ticket go on my NYS driving record ?
California tickets? NYS does not record them as long as you pay.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1207 on: June 11, 2014, 05:56:10 PM »
I have a seat belt driver ticket that I got in brooklyn over 2 years ago that i totally forgot about. I just saw the letter today in one of my files that june 11th which is today was deadline otherwise my license would be suspended, what do I do now?
Do I plead guilty online and pay?
are there points on my license? I want to avoid pts on license and insurance probelms etc.
When I go on dmv website the ticket doesn't even come up.
Any advise?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1208 on: June 12, 2014, 12:07:30 AM »
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1209 on: June 12, 2014, 12:15:16 AM »
I have a seat belt driver ticket that I got in brooklyn over 2 years ago that i totally forgot about. I just saw the letter today in one of my files that june 11th which is today was deadline otherwise my license would be suspended, what do I do now?
Do I plead guilty online and pay?
are there points on my license? I want to avoid pts on license and insurance probelms etc.
When I go on dmv website the ticket doesn't even come up.
Any advise?
Adult seatbelt tickets go on your license however they don't carry points. DWIs don't have points either, however don't get any. As for the letter telling you that you would be suspended today, you can go down to a office and get the suspension lifted for $40 and $70 suspension termination fee.

The ticket not showing up after you got letters telling you that you will be suspended is weird. Perhaps you are putting in the info wrong?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1210 on: June 13, 2014, 02:22:00 AM »
In NYS when does the 18 month off your abstract start from the ticket date or court date?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1211 on: June 13, 2014, 02:30:06 AM »

In NYS when does the 18 month off your abstract start from the ticket date or court date?
From the date of the violation, but points don't go onto your record until the court convicts you, so if you get a ticket that could potentially cause a license suspension you can push off the court date until after the 18 months have passed from the first ticket.

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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1212 on: June 13, 2014, 02:38:20 AM »
And after how many points do you get a driver assessment fee?

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Re: Traffic Tickets
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Re: Traffic Tickets
« Reply #1214 on: June 13, 2014, 02:47:04 AM »
And a driving course takes off how many?