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Re: Next Level Disgusting.
« Reply #40 on: October 26, 2020, 03:23:29 PM »
There's incompetence and there's NYC incompetence.
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Re: Next Level Disgusting.
« Reply #41 on: October 26, 2020, 03:24:35 PM »
This was going around on social media last week, supposedly taken from a DOB inspector's windshield.



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Re: Next Level Disgusting.
« Reply #42 on: October 26, 2020, 03:24:39 PM »
There's incompetence and there's incompetence.

I agree. And there's nothing right about this situation. But let's hold off on blaming the Gov and Mayor for instituting systemic targeting of closed Jewish schools. As I've said before, there's enough rope to hang them both without exaggerating or making things up.
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Re: Next Level Disgusting.
« Reply #43 on: October 26, 2020, 03:26:22 PM »
I got 2 parking tickets in 1 night in CH, for being 14 feet away from a hydrant  ::)
I called and they said they could have written 100 tickets the same night if they wanted to. Truly a lovely city.
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When was this? They apparently aren't too strict anymore
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Re: Next Level Disgusting.
« Reply #44 on: October 26, 2020, 03:29:31 PM »
But let's hold off on blaming the Gov and Mayor for instituting systemic targeting of closed Jewish schools.



Maybe you haven’t been following Cuomo’s briefings, but he’s said things that you expect Farrakhan & Duke to say.

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Re: Next Level Disgusting.
« Reply #45 on: October 26, 2020, 03:32:43 PM »
I agree. And there's nothing right about this situation. But let's hold off on blaming the Gov and Mayor for instituting systemic targeting of closed Jewish schools. As I've said before, there's enough rope to hang them both without exaggerating or making things up.

This school was never open - no reason to be on a list. It's not the mayor, it's the governor, he specifically said he was taking over enforcement when he started the red zones and publicly slammed BDB for not enforcing. He has spoken specifically about the Orthodox Jews being non-compliant, and with all the red zone and cluster talk has never singled out another community.  They have shut down daycares which they admitted later were allowed to be open, and numerous summonses have already been reversed (including the restaurant one that went viral last week). With all this incompetence, have you seen even one non-Jewish school or store complain or post such a video? There have been pictures snapped like the one above which only have Jewish institutions listed.

If the lists include all schools, let them show that. They have been hammered for targeting Jews, if they weren't, it would be the easiest thing to prove. They are not proving it because they are targetting Jews and they don't care.

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Re: Next Level Disgusting.
« Reply #46 on: October 26, 2020, 03:38:52 PM »
I'm confused.  She's supposed to give a summons if the school is open, and the school is open.  She noted that from outside, by just trying the door. 

In the video, she's inspecting the inside of the open school.  Maybe based on stories like this:

One father whose children attend several Orthodox schools in Borough Park said students are given a short window of time in the morning to arrive at school and in the afternoon to leave, apparently to minimize the amount of time students are seen entering and exiting the building. When inspectors arrived at one school, the father said, students were brought to one part of the building while the inspectors were shown the parts of the building that were empty.
https://www.jta.org/2020/10/15/united-states/in-a-repeat-of-the-spring-yeshivas-in-brooklyn-are-operating-despite-school-closure-mandate

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Re: Next Level Disgusting.
« Reply #47 on: October 26, 2020, 03:46:22 PM »
I'm confused.  She's supposed to give a summons if the school is open, and the school is open.  She noted that from outside, by just trying the door. 

In the video, she's inspecting the inside of the open school.  Maybe based on stories like this:

One father whose children attend several Orthodox schools in Borough Park said students are given a short window of time in the morning to arrive at school and in the afternoon to leave, apparently to minimize the amount of time students are seen entering and exiting the building. When inspectors arrived at one school, the father said, students were brought to one part of the building while the inspectors were shown the parts of the building that were empty.
https://www.jta.org/2020/10/15/united-states/in-a-repeat-of-the-spring-yeshivas-in-brooklyn-are-operating-despite-school-closure-mandate

The school is open for admin staff and for teachers to host zoom classes from their desks, which is all legal. She is only inspecting inside because she was called in by the videographer to inspect before giving a summons. This school has been closed since day 1 and you can't hide hundreds of kids from inspectors by shuffling them across the building. That's sit-com level stuff. If you've ever tried to get 3 kids from point A to point B you'd realize what an absurd proposition that is.

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Re: Next Level Disgusting.
« Reply #48 on: October 26, 2020, 03:48:17 PM »
This school was never open - no reason to be on a list. It's not the mayor, it's the governor, he specifically said he was taking over enforcement when he started the red zones and publicly slammed BDB for not enforcing. He has spoken specifically about the Orthodox Jews being non-compliant, and with all the red zone and cluster talk has never singled out another community.  They have shut down daycares which they admitted later were allowed to be open, and numerous summonses have already been reversed (including the restaurant one that went viral last week). With all this incompetence, have you seen even one non-Jewish school or store complain or post such a video? There have been pictures snapped like the one above which only have Jewish institutions listed.

If the lists include all schools, let them show that. They have been hammered for targeting Jews, if they weren't, it would be the easiest thing to prove. They are not proving it because they are targetting Jews and they don't care.

I took issue with HT's tweet. That's all.
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Re: Next Level Disgusting.
« Reply #49 on: October 26, 2020, 03:48:59 PM »
I'm confused.  She's supposed to give a summons if the school is open, and the school is open.  She noted that from outside, by just trying the door. 

In the video, she's inspecting the inside of the open school.  Maybe based on stories like this:

One father whose children attend several Orthodox schools in Borough Park said students are given a short window of time in the morning to arrive at school and in the afternoon to leave, apparently to minimize the amount of time students are seen entering and exiting the building. When inspectors arrived at one school, the father said, students were brought to one part of the building while the inspectors were shown the parts of the building that were empty.
https://www.jta.org/2020/10/15/united-states/in-a-repeat-of-the-spring-yeshivas-in-brooklyn-are-operating-despite-school-closure-mandate
So not only does Cuomo put all “ultra-orthodox” Jews in the same basket, but apparently so do you. Go fly a kite. You’re argument is that since one school did something like this other schools should be fined 15k for having the door unlocked?

Do you not realize how stereotypical that is?

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Re: Next Level Disgusting.
« Reply #50 on: October 26, 2020, 03:49:24 PM »
Maybe you haven’t been following Cuomo’s briefings, but he’s said things that you expect Farrakhan & Duke to say.

The things he has said and done are disgusting. No argument there.
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Re: Next Level Disgusting.
« Reply #51 on: October 26, 2020, 03:49:46 PM »
I took issue with HT's tweet. That's all.
You can’t say that no one should be surprised by NYC inspectors and then by surprised by HT’s tweet. :)

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« Reply #52 on: October 26, 2020, 03:51:03 PM »
You can’t say that no one should be surprised by NYC inspectors and then by surprised by HT’s tweet. :)

Lol, I'm not surprised at all. That won't stop me from commenting on it when it gets posted here.
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Re: Next Level Disgusting.
« Reply #53 on: October 26, 2020, 03:55:16 PM »
The things he has said and done are disgusting. No argument there.
And antisemitic

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Re: Next Level Disgusting.
« Reply #54 on: October 26, 2020, 03:56:52 PM »
I'm confused.  She's supposed to give a summons if the school is open, and the school is open.  She noted that from outside, by just trying the door. 
The public schools also have their doors open.

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Re: Next Level Disgusting.
« Reply #55 on: October 26, 2020, 04:01:16 PM »
When they started the enforcement, there was a Yeshiva in Queens that got ticketed, in the yellow zone, for being open. After local politicians got involved, since they were allowed to be open, it was rescinded.

However, there is a Muslim school directly across the street that was open  and not visited nor ticketed.

Explain how this is not targeted to us...

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« Reply #56 on: October 26, 2020, 04:06:37 PM »
When they started the enforcement, there was a Yeshiva in Queens that got ticketed, in the yellow zone, for being open. After local politicians got involved, since they were allowed to be open, it was rescinded.

However, there is a Muslim school directly across the street that was open  and not visited nor ticketed.

Explain how this is not targeted to us...

This would be targeted and anti-Semitic. What I saw in the tweeted clip was not this.
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Re: Next Level Disgusting.
« Reply #57 on: October 26, 2020, 04:07:54 PM »
So not only does Cuomo put all “ultra-orthodox” Jews in the same basket, but apparently so do you. Go fly a kite. You’re argument is that since one school did something like this other schools should be fined 15k for having the door unlocked?

Do you not realize how stereotypical that is?
Sounds enticing, but wind speed today is not conducive to kite-flying.
I didn't offer an argument, but expressed confusion.  Was the order that schools should be closed?  In which case, an unlocked door may be enough to warrant the summons. Or was the order that classes should not be in session?  In which case, it would seem necessary to actually examine the inside of the school.  In either case, the videographer's tone seems unnecessarily disrespectful.  Why doth he protest so much?  Politely take the inspector to view the empty classrooms, and she'd politely leave.

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Re: Next Level Disgusting.
« Reply #58 on: October 26, 2020, 04:14:25 PM »
Sounds enticing, but wind speed today is not conducive to kite-flying.
I didn't offer an argument, but expressed confusion.  Was the order that schools should be closed?  In which case, an unlocked door may be enough to warrant the summons. Or was the order that classes should not be in session?  In which case, it would seem necessary to actually examine the inside of the school.  In either case, the videographer's tone seems unnecessarily disrespectful.  Why doth he protest so much?  Politely take the inspector to view the empty classrooms, and she'd politely leave.
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Re: Next Level Disgusting.
« Reply #59 on: October 26, 2020, 04:14:28 PM »
Sounds enticing, but wind speed today is not conducive to kite-flying.
I didn't offer an argument, but expressed confusion.  Was the order that schools should be closed?  In which case, an unlocked door may be enough to warrant the summons. Or was the order that classes should not be in session?  In which case, it would seem necessary to actually examine the inside of the school.  In either case, the videographer's tone seems unnecessarily disrespectful.  Why doth he protest so much?  Politely take the inspector to view the empty classrooms, and she'd politely leave.
He was very polite cut the nonsense