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Re: Air Jordan Investment?
« Reply #40 on: October 29, 2020, 10:54:22 PM »
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Re: Air Jordan Investment?
« Reply #41 on: October 29, 2020, 11:59:30 PM »
My buying group only got one kids pair. If anyone wants to join, PM. I will be doing shoes, coins and other limited edition items.

I was offering $130 commision (minus taxes pd) for the adult and $50 for the kids and toddler (only bc i didnt have time to research the resale price of the smaller versions)
Highly coveted sneakers like todays drop are being purchased by bots that are more powerful and have higher chances than probably 1000 humans

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Re: Air Jordan Investment?
« Reply #42 on: October 30, 2020, 09:06:26 AM »
What means Bot's? (don't speak so good english..)

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Re: Air Jordan Investment?
« Reply #43 on: October 30, 2020, 10:13:44 AM »
What means Bot's? (don't speak so good english..)
A sophisticated computer program + highly powered computer + vpn + proxy close to seller sever + high speed internet built by smart nerds who are in this business for years. Itís basically programmed  to buy a bunch of pairs in the matter of nanoseconds.

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Re: Air Jordan Investment?
« Reply #44 on: October 31, 2020, 11:09:25 AM »
Sell these on your own.
https://stockx.com/air-jordan-5-retro-off-white-sail
Many are not aware of the sneaker market. These BG's are taking advantage of everyone.
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Re: Air Jordan Investment?
« Reply #45 on: October 31, 2020, 09:07:22 PM »
A sophisticated computer program + highly powered computer + vpn + proxy close to seller sever + high speed internet built by smart nerds who are in this business for years. Itís basically programmed  to buy a bunch of pairs in the matter of nanoseconds.

People seem to get consolation by believing that bots bought all the sneakers.

Here is the problem: you can only get one pair per account. Letís assume that our hypothetical nerds are using Android on a VM, they still need the bot to open the app, sign in, get the sneakers, and checkout. Assuming they can pull this off with minimal or no testing, how are they creating multiple accounts? Each account requires a Google Play account AND a Nike account. Nike requires a unique phone number for each account. Do you know how many accounts they will need to buy out 35,000 pairs?

So either there are many, many hacker nerds out there, or you can just accept the fact that hundreds of thousands (maybe millions?) of people were trying to buy a few thousand pairs of sneakers and the vast majority of people didnít get one.

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Re: Air Jordan Investment?
« Reply #46 on: October 31, 2020, 10:10:56 PM »
People seem to get consolation by believing that bots bought all the sneakers.

Here is the problem: you can only get one pair per account. Letís assume that our hypothetical nerds are using Android on a VM, they still need the bot to open the app, sign in, get the sneakers, and checkout. Assuming they can pull this off with minimal or no testing, how are they creating multiple accounts? Each account requires a Google Play account AND a Nike account. Nike requires a unique phone number for each account. Do you know how many accounts they will need to buy out 35,000 pairs?

So either there are many, many hacker nerds out there, or you can just accept the fact that hundreds of thousands (maybe millions?) of people were trying to buy a few thousand pairs of sneakers and the vast majority of people didnít get one.

You're underestimating the outfits running bots, first of all. Second, there are many individuals who use bots for the one pair. They buy sneakers for resale all the time, and the bot more than pays for itself. The number of individuals with bots is not insignificant. A bunch of the neighborhood kids have them.
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Re: Air Jordan Investment?
« Reply #47 on: October 31, 2020, 10:20:13 PM »
People seem to get consolation by believing that bots bought all the sneakers.

Here is the problem: you can only get one pair per account. Letís assume that our hypothetical nerds are using Android on a VM, they still need the bot to open the app, sign in, get the sneakers, and checkout. Assuming they can pull this off with minimal or no testing, how are they creating multiple accounts? Each account requires a Google Play account AND a Nike account. Nike requires a unique phone number for each account. Do you know how many accounts they will need to buy out 35,000 pairs?

So either there are many, many hacker nerds out there, or you can just accept the fact that hundreds of thousands (maybe millions?) of people were trying to buy a few thousand pairs of sneakers and the vast majority of people didnít get one.
Lol! Youíre a bit naive. Computers with hacker grade programmer nerds in front of them are capable of a lot. Thereís a reason why thereís talk of making it illegal like ticket bots.

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Re: Air Jordan Investment?
« Reply #48 on: October 31, 2020, 10:25:49 PM »
People seem to get consolation by believing that bots bought all the sneakers.

Here is the problem: you can only get one pair per account. Letís assume that our hypothetical nerds are using Android on a VM, they still need the bot to open the app, sign in, get the sneakers, and checkout. Assuming they can pull this off with minimal or no testing, how are they creating multiple accounts? Each account requires a Google Play account AND a Nike account. Nike requires a unique phone number for each account. Do you know how many accounts they will need to buy out 35,000 pairs?

So either there are many, many hacker nerds out there, or you can just accept the fact that hundreds of thousands (maybe millions?) of people were trying to buy a few thousand pairs of sneakers and the vast majority of people didnít get one.

Don't think you're familiar with the subject matter. Bots are very sophisticated.

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Re: Air Jordan Investment?
« Reply #49 on: October 31, 2020, 10:34:36 PM »
Many are not aware of the sneaker market. These BG's are taking advantage of everyone.
Actually the BG's are giving us a quick money making opportunity.

It's like the coins, ipads, etc.

Most people aren't familiar with the ins and outs of the resale market, and they'd much rather get their few bucks (with very little to no risk) and be done with it.

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« Reply #50 on: October 31, 2020, 10:45:20 PM »
Many are not aware of the sneaker market. These BG's are taking advantage of everyone.
Actually the BG's are giving us a quick money making opportunity.

It's like the coins, ipads, etc.

Most people aren't familiar with the ins and outs of the resale market, and they'd much rather get their few bucks (with very little to no risk) and be done with it.

There's truth in both of these statements, and they aren't contradictory.

If you'd like to know why the BGs want this product, educate yourself. If you want to play the game and assume the risks, go for it. If you don't care to know the whole story or to assume all the risk, stick with the BGs. Just know that playing with BGs isn't without its own risks.
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Re: Air Jordan Investment?
« Reply #51 on: October 31, 2020, 10:47:48 PM »
There's truth in both of these statements, and they aren't contradictory.

If you'd like to know why the BGs want this product, educate yourself. If you want to play the game and assume the risks, go for it. If you don't care to know the whole story or to assume all the risk, stick with the BGs. Just know that playing with BGs isn't without its own risks.
I agree. So how is his statements not incorrect? He said BG's are taking advantage of the buyers.

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« Reply #52 on: October 31, 2020, 10:59:51 PM »
I agree. So how is his statements not incorrect? He said BG's are taking advantage of the buyers.

1: Many are uneducated and may want to take the risks themselves if they knew what was going on. Preying on their lack of education is taking advantage of them.
2: Many are willing to be taken advantage of. Give me my points and maybe a commission, and take advantage of me all you want. Doesn't make it wrong, but it doesn't mean they aren't taking advantage.
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Re: Air Jordan Investment?
« Reply #53 on: November 01, 2020, 01:12:59 AM »
1: Many are uneducated and may want to take the risks themselves if they knew what was going on. Preying on their lack of education is taking advantage of them.
2: Many are willing to be taken advantage of. Give me my points and maybe a commission, and take advantage of me all you want. Doesn't make it wrong, but it doesn't mean they aren't taking advantage.
1) If you go to your local plumbing supply store and buy part for your toilet for $30, when at the same time its sold on amazon for $10 - is the store owner praying on your lack of education? What if it's $20 at the supply store down the block and you don't know that - Is that considered preying on your lack of education?

2) That's not called being taken advantage of. That's called taking a pay cut for selfish convenience purposes. 95% Less risk. No hassle to find a buyer. No risk of customer returns. No risk of fraudulent payment. Etc etc
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« Reply #54 on: November 01, 2020, 01:23:22 AM »
1) If you go to your local plumbing supply store and buy part for your toilet for $30, when at the same time its sold on amazon for $10 - is the store owner praying on your lack of education? What if it's $20 at the supply store down the block and you don't know that - Is that considered preying on your lack of education?

2) That's not called being taken advantage of. That's called taking a pay cut for selfish convenience purposes. 95% Less risk. No hassle to find a buyer. No risk of customer returns. No risk of fraudulent payment. Etc etc
#Business101

1: If you're charging someone $30 for a part that should cost $10, yes, you're taking advantage.

2: It's business, it's mutual, there's nothing wrong with it. Doesn't mean the BGs aren't taking advantage of other people's aversion to risk or hard work. It's opportunism. G-d bless them.
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Re: Air Jordan Investment?
« Reply #55 on: November 01, 2020, 01:37:03 AM »
I agree. So how is his statements not incorrect? He said BG's are taking advantage of the buyers.
Look at it this way. I factor in all risks and feel a nice profit for me would be to offer 200 over. I know most are clueless what these go for and they will jump at 50. Am I taking advantage of the person?
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Re: Air Jordan Investment?
« Reply #56 on: November 01, 2020, 01:42:42 AM »
1: If you're charging someone $30 for a part that should cost $10, yes, you're taking advantage.

2: It's business, it's mutual, there's nothing wrong with it. Doesn't mean the BGs aren't taking advantage of other people's aversion to risk or hard work. It's opportunism. G-d bless them.
1) We're getting there. So who decides what something should cost? There's ranges for everything, and depending on the service that comes along with it, the price can fluctuate. People pay double for a product in order to get it conveniently. This can be applied to any product/service. Custom service costs money. Convenience costs money. Costco is cheaper than shoprite because there's much less workers in the store, and they don't pay people to stock the shelves. They save money, and you need to do more work. You need to "help yourself". That doesn't mean that shoprite is taking advantage of you. It means they charge less since they offer less service.

2) The definition of "Mutual" is the opposite of "taking advantage". Look it up.

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« Reply #57 on: November 01, 2020, 01:46:21 AM »
1) We're getting there. So who decides what something should cost? There's ranges for everything, and depending on the service that comes along with it, the price can fluctuate. People pay double for a product in order to get it conveniently. This can be applied to any product/service. Custom service costs money. Convenience costs money. Costco is cheaper than shoprite because there's much less workers in the store, and they don't pay people to stock the shelves. They save money, and you need to do more work. You need to "help yourself". That doesn't mean that shoprite is taking advantage of you. It means they charge less since they offer less service.

2) The definition of "Mutual" is the opposite of "taking advantage". Look it up.

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/taking+advantage
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« Reply #58 on: November 01, 2020, 01:52:21 AM »
Look at it this way. I factor in all risks and feel a nice profit for me would be to offer 200 over. I know most are clueless what these go for and they will jump at 50. Am I taking advantage of the person?
The market dictates the price. If a BG would be able to pay $200, they would. It would get everyone to sell to them over the other BG's.

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