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Are you offended by the term Ultra Orthodox?

Yes
12 (33.3%)
No
13 (36.1%)
I represent that remark
4 (11.1%)
Meh
7 (19.4%)

Total Members Voted: 36

Voting closed: November 28, 2020, 09:03:42 AM

Author Topic: Are you offended by the term Ultra Orthodox?  (Read 7150 times)

Offline Yehuda57

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Re: Are you offended by the term Ultra Orthodox?
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2020, 11:54:29 AM »
What would you like them to call you?

Depending on the context, a Chassid, a yrei shomayim, a lamdan.

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Re: Are you offended by the term Ultra Orthodox?
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2020, 01:31:02 PM »
Depending on the context, a Chassid, a yrei shomayim, a lamdan.
And if they're English-speakers?  Google Translate would make those Follower, G-d fearing, Scholar

Added: For חָסִיד they also give Hassid, Righteous person, Adherent, Devotee, Devout Person, Pious Person
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Re: Are you offended by the term Ultra Orthodox?
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2020, 01:42:57 PM »
What would you like them to call you?
DDFer, obviously
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Re: Are you offended by the term Ultra Orthodox?
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2020, 01:46:14 PM »
And if they're English-speakers?  Google Translate would make those Follower, G-d fearing, Scholar

Added: For חָסִיד they also give Hassid, Righteous person, Adherent, Devotee, Devout Person, Pious Person
With @Yehuda57 context is always needed :)
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2317470/jewish/The-Rebbes-letter-to-a-Bar-Mitzvah.htm
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Re: Are you offended by the term Ultra Orthodox?
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2020, 01:49:19 PM »
And if they're English-speakers?  Google Translate would make those Follower, G-d fearing, Scholar

That's not half-bad for Google translate.

In all seriousness, it would depend on context. Sometimes Chassidic would work, visibly Jewish, Orthodox, observant, Amazon seller, super spreader, slumlord

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Re: Are you offended by the term Ultra Orthodox?
« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2020, 02:10:50 PM »
With @Yehuda57 context is always needed :)
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2317470/jewish/The-Rebbes-letter-to-a-Bar-Mitzvah.htm

Bonus points if you can find the letter to my great uncle where the Rebbe explains why it is in that order

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Re: Are you offended by the term Ultra Orthodox?
« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2020, 02:16:39 PM »
I have absolutely no issue being called that, I actually think its a compliment.

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Re: Are you offended by the term Ultra Orthodox?
« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2020, 02:21:01 PM »
Bonus points if you can find the letter to my great uncle where the Rebbe explains why it is in that order

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Re: Are you offended by the term Ultra Orthodox?
« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2020, 02:35:47 PM »

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Re: Are you offended by the term Ultra Orthodox?
« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2020, 02:46:38 PM »
Ok, wow. Ngl, I'm impressed

NGL, GIMF.
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Re: Are you offended by the term Ultra Orthodox?
« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2020, 03:18:39 PM »
I personally think the the term Ultra Orthodox is made up by the Modern Orthodox to give them legitimacy, otherwise who is plain orthodox?...

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Re: Are you offended by the term Ultra Orthodox?
« Reply #34 on: October 29, 2020, 03:19:24 PM »
GINYF
Indeed. Tools and friends are far apart.

That's why I like the other abbreviations for GIYF v'dal
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Re: Are you offended by the term Ultra Orthodox?
« Reply #35 on: October 29, 2020, 03:20:16 PM »
Indeed. Tools and friends are far apart.

That's why I like the other abbreviations for GIYF v'dal
I have friends who are complete tools.

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Re: Are you offended by the term Ultra Orthodox?
« Reply #36 on: October 29, 2020, 03:27:08 PM »
I have friends who are complete tools.
I am now truly happy to say I am not (as of now) your friend :P
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Re: Are you offended by the term Ultra Orthodox?
« Reply #37 on: October 29, 2020, 03:28:53 PM »
Rabbi Gifter would say “Orthodox is a greek word”, and the term Torah Jew should be used.

Anyone with any foresight knew that the term orthodox would be oh so easy to  hijack and redefine.

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Re: Are you offended by the term Ultra Orthodox?
« Reply #38 on: October 29, 2020, 03:59:48 PM »
I personally think the the term Ultra Orthodox is made up by the Modern Orthodox to give them legitimacy, otherwise who is plain orthodox?...
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