Author Topic: Trump 2024 (Read 52344 times)

S209 · « **on:** October 31, 2020, 10:48:30 PM »

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Quote from: YitzyS on October 29, 2020, 11:56:36 AM

If we keep these numbers up, the Trump will win in 2024.

If (when?) Trump loses, would he be the favorite to win it all in 2024? I say probably yes. Reasons:

1) Trump would probably be the favorite to get the R nomination, as Pence would presumably not want to challenge him directly and he’s extremely polarizing with a solid committed base. Might scare off other serious contenders.
2) Biden/Harris are nearly guaranteed to be presiding over a poor economy, feeling the true effects of 1-2 years of COVID and its accompanying effects, along with quite predictable policy decisions.
3) People are likely to remember Trump somewhat more favorably in hindsight than they do now, where he’s at a relative low in his presidency because of COVID and some recent mistakes. He’ll probably be remembered for the excellent economy he had for most of his tenure.

Dan · « **Reply #1 on:** October 31, 2020, 10:49:37 PM »

Um. No.

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #2 on:** October 31, 2020, 10:51:11 PM »

I think there's a good chance he'll run in 2024 and win. Especially if the democrats botch up and put up an extremist.

CountValentine · « **Reply #3 on:** October 31, 2020, 10:51:25 PM »

If he loses this election his own party will blame him for the massive deaths due to the virus.

TimT · « **Reply #4 on:** October 31, 2020, 10:53:16 PM »

Quote from: S209 on October 31, 2020, 10:48:30 PM

as Pence would presumably not want to challenge him directly

I’m not so sure about this

Lurker · « **Reply #5 on:** October 31, 2020, 10:53:30 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on October 31, 2020, 10:51:25 PM

If he loses this election his own party will blame him for the massive deaths due to the virus.

This. You will see this man get thrown under the bus before you can blink. All the people who had to fall in line for the last 4+ years will be tripping over each other to pronounce him the devil.

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #6 on:** October 31, 2020, 10:54:36 PM »

Quote from: S209 on October 31, 2020, 10:48:30 PM

2) Biden/Harris are nearly guaranteed to be presiding over a poor economy, feeling the true effects of 1-2 years of COVID and its accompanying effects, along with quite predictable policy decisions.

Far from certain. A good application of Keynesian economics is likely to raise most metrics between now and 2024.

Quote from: TimT on October 31, 2020, 10:53:16 PM

I’m not so sure about this

That would be a good debate to watch.

chinagel · « **Reply #7 on:** October 31, 2020, 10:57:24 PM »

He has a better chance of winning in '24 by extending term limits. (Which isn't happening)

coffeebean · « **Reply #8 on:** October 31, 2020, 10:59:13 PM »

Can we discuss this in like 2 weeks

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #9 on:** October 31, 2020, 10:59:50 PM »

Quote from: avrohomgelb on October 31, 2020, 10:59:13 PM

Can we discuss this in like 2 weeks

You have something better to discuss now?

zale · « **Reply #10 on:** October 31, 2020, 11:00:30 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on October 31, 2020, 10:51:25 PM

If he loses this election his own party will blame him for the massive deaths due to the virus.

They will not blame him for the deaths, unless you believe that all the European leaders are to be blamed for the deaths in their countries, despite some of them taking drastic measures.

They WILL blame him for running his mouth and Tweeting like a demented man. If he closed his Twitter account two years ago and shut his mouth, he would be polling ten points ahead of Biden right now. Biden is an old man with early-stage dementia and zero enthusiasm, yet people are coming out in droves to vote for him because they can't stand Trump.

In short, if he loses, it's because he couldn't shut his mouth and stop his fingers from tweeting.

yesitsme · « **Reply #11 on:** October 31, 2020, 11:00:38 PM »

Quote from: PlatinumGuy on October 31, 2020, 10:59:50 PM

You have something better to discuss now?

A good MM?

CountValentine · « **Reply #12 on:** October 31, 2020, 11:06:16 PM »

Quote from: zale on October 31, 2020, 11:00:30 PM

They will not blame him for the deaths, unless you believe that all the European leaders are to be blamed for the deaths in their countries, despite some of them taking drastic measures.

I don't give a rats a** what other countries do or did.
The Jewish community lost many of their greats to the virus. Does what happen in Europe lessen that at all?

zale · « **Reply #13 on:** October 31, 2020, 11:07:40 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on October 31, 2020, 11:06:16 PM

I don't give a rats a** what other countries do or did.
The Jewish community lost many of their greats to the virus. Does what happen in Europe lessen that at all?

What does that have to do with Trump? Did he handle it well?, no. But that almost certainly would not have prevented the virus from spreading. It was spreading before anyone was even talking about it.

coffeebean · « **Reply #14 on:** October 31, 2020, 11:07:49 PM »

Quote from: PlatinumGuy on October 31, 2020, 10:59:50 PM

You have something better to discuss now?

2020 elections

TimT · « **Reply #15 on:** October 31, 2020, 11:09:34 PM »

Quote from: avrohomgelb on October 31, 2020, 11:07:49 PM

2020 elections

🤮🤮🤮

CountValentine · « **Reply #16 on:** October 31, 2020, 11:11:07 PM »

Quote from: zale on October 31, 2020, 11:07:40 PM

What does that have to do with Trump? Did he handle it well?, no. But that almost certainly would not have prevented the virus from spreading. It was spreading before anyone was even talking about it.

Do you want an honest discuss or you just going to defend Trump.
Look at his rallies. He is putting Americans at risk. You don't understand that?

coffeebean · « **Reply #17 on:** October 31, 2020, 11:12:19 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on October 31, 2020, 11:11:07 PM

Do you want an honest discuss or you just going to defend Trump.
Look at his rallies. He is putting Americans at risk. You don't understand that?

His rallies are outdoors

Yo ssi · « **Reply #18 on:** October 31, 2020, 11:13:25 PM »

Quote from: avrohomgelb on October 31, 2020, 10:59:13 PM

Can we discuss this in like 2 weeks

Sure thing boss

Lurker · « **Reply #19 on:** October 31, 2020, 11:17:01 PM »

Quote from: avrohomgelb on October 31, 2020, 11:12:19 PM

His rallies are outdoors

Not all, and it doesn't matter when there are no masks and everyone's on top of each other for hours. Forget the screaming...

You can say what you want about Trump, say what you want about the rallies, but they are not safe and he's the cause. People make their own decisions, but that doesn't mean he's blameless.