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Re: Trump 2024
« Reply #100 on: November 07, 2020, 10:47:13 PM »
elon musk 2024!

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Re: Trump 2024
« Reply #101 on: November 07, 2020, 11:05:17 PM »
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Re: Trump 2024
« Reply #102 on: November 07, 2020, 11:09:34 PM »
elon musk 2024!

He's way too busy

Also wasn't born in America (just a small detail)

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Re: Trump 2024
« Reply #103 on: November 07, 2020, 11:20:36 PM »
Also wasn't born in America (just a small detail)
Neither was Obama 😜

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Re: Trump 2024
« Reply #104 on: November 07, 2020, 11:28:24 PM »
At least a half a brain? I guess that explains why he gets most of the uneducated vote.  :P
right because paying 80k in college debt with no clear career path makes you the smart one exactly my point

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Re: Trump 2024
« Reply #105 on: November 07, 2020, 11:31:35 PM »
right because paying 80k in college debt with no clear career path makes you the smart one exactly my point
This argument is tiresome - the frum community pays even more than that in education that doesn't lead to a career.

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Re: Trump 2024
« Reply #106 on: November 07, 2020, 11:35:59 PM »
This argument is tiresome - the frum community pays even more than that in education that doesn't lead to a career.
This is a disingenuous argument since it is done for religious value.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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« Reply #107 on: November 07, 2020, 11:38:26 PM »
This is a disingenuous argument since it is done for religious value.
That's my point, people who study eg Liberal Arts value that education  similarly to how we value religious education. Doesn't mean they're stupid or not "smart" for spending that money.

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Re: Trump 2024
« Reply #108 on: November 08, 2020, 12:12:13 AM »
That's my point, people who study eg Liberal Arts value that education  similarly to how we value religious education. Doesn't mean they're stupid or not "smart" for spending that money.
so your basically proving that college is a religion class not for career advancement which proves the ultra orthodox point not to go to college and besides I don't recall most of the classes saying it's for way of life kind of deceptive if you ask me

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Re: Trump 2024
« Reply #109 on: November 08, 2020, 12:13:52 AM »
and the fact that you compare the values taught in yeshvish in colleges shows me everything about your values

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Re: Trump 2024
« Reply #110 on: November 08, 2020, 12:15:12 AM »
and the fact that you compare the values taught in yeshvish in colleges shows me everything about your values
Seems like you don't have a better command of reading English than you have of writing it.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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« Reply #111 on: November 08, 2020, 12:18:09 AM »
so your basically proving that college is a religion class not for career advancement which proves the ultra orthodox point not to go to college and besides I don't recall most of the classes saying it's for way of life kind of deceptive if you ask me
Hard to understand your second point in this run on sentence, but to your first point I'm not sure how you're writing off other types of college education based on e.g. Liberal Arts/Political Science degrees not leading to careers. I'd say the vast majority of degrees lead to a career path.

This is a myth perpetuated by many in the frum community - *all* college education is a waste of time because there exist majors that are worthless for earning a living.

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Re: Trump 2024
« Reply #112 on: November 08, 2020, 12:21:01 AM »
This is a myth perpetuated by the frum community - *all* college education is a waste of time because there exist majors that are worthless for earning a living.

This is a myth perpetuated outside of the yeshiva community. As we know, there are some who can't understand a nuanced reality and this is no different.
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Re: Trump 2024
« Reply #113 on: November 08, 2020, 12:23:51 AM »
This is a myth perpetuated outside of the yeshiva community. As we know, there are some who can't understand a nuanced reality and this is no different.
Yeah. I changed my qualifier...this myth is bandied about amongst bachurim...I think most people once they hit the outside world change how they view higher education.

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Re: Trump 2024
« Reply #114 on: November 08, 2020, 12:33:56 AM »
Seems like you don't have a better command of reading English than you have of writing it.
Well said
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Re: Trump 2024
« Reply #115 on: November 08, 2020, 01:07:10 AM »
Yeah. I changed my qualifier...this myth is bandied about amongst bachurim...I think most people once they hit the outside world change how they view higher education.
you mean once you enter that world you get influenced by it nothing new there

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Re: Trump 2024
« Reply #116 on: November 08, 2020, 01:08:00 AM »
Well said
nothing like a online forum correcting grammar when you have nothing else to say

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Re: Trump 2024
« Reply #117 on: November 08, 2020, 01:09:43 AM »
nothing like a online forum correcting grammar when you have nothing else to say
Nothing like attacking your opponent when you can't defend yourself
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Re: Trump 2024
« Reply #118 on: November 08, 2020, 01:11:04 AM »
Hard to understand your second point in this run on sentence, but to your first point I'm not sure how you're writing off other types of college education based on e.g. Liberal Arts/Political Science degrees not leading to careers. I'd say the vast majority of degrees lead to a career path.

This is a myth perpetuated by many in the frum community - *all* college education is a waste of time because there exist majors that are worthless for earning a living.
it's actually funny where I work, there's a healthy % of people with college degrees that had to work there because the field  in the degree they got payed less then the job they got that required no degree

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Re: Trump 2024
« Reply #119 on: November 08, 2020, 01:12:05 AM »
Nothing like attacking your opponent when you can't defend yourself
ignore the point stick  to the grammar issue, nothing orginal classic liberal move