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Re: Will the Rs hold the senate?
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2020, 02:10:15 PM »
NYT calls MI for D but AP has it toss up. DNC needs NC/GA+MI for 50
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Re: Will the Rs hold the senate?
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2020, 03:08:24 PM »
NYT calls MI for D but AP has it toss up. DNC needs NC/GA+MI for 50
Where do you see that Peters is ahead in MI?

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Re: Will the Rs hold the senate?
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2020, 03:21:37 PM »
FOX still saying senate up for grabs.
Only on DDF does 24/6 mean 24/5/half/half

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Re: Will the Rs hold the senate?
« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2020, 04:04:59 PM »
Where do you see that Peters is ahead in MI?
NYT has him likely win, believe he's up 5k now.

FOX still saying senate up for grabs.
They're saying Osoff may win GA1 now. Has to make up 170k votes but mostly deep blue ballots left to count. D's can have 51 with MI/NC/GA although 50 is a win enough.

I'm for a R senate
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Re: Will the Rs hold the senate?
« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2020, 04:09:22 PM »
Only on DDF does 24/6 mean 24/5/half/half

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Re: Will the Rs hold the senate?
« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2020, 04:10:47 PM »
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Re: Will the Rs hold the senate?
« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2020, 04:19:01 PM »
Only on DDF does 24/6 mean 24/5/half/half

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Re: Will the Rs hold the senate?
« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2020, 04:22:51 PM »
Let me know when it is 99%.  ;)
Too hard to trust any data now. These states can still find some rural county that doesn't have internet on Tues/Weds. If Fox is well informed on AZ (all PHX) then it's up to 99%
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Re: Will the Rs hold the senate?
« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2020, 05:33:11 PM »
Is there still a mathematical pathway for Ossoff to win GA without a runoff?
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Re: Will the Rs hold the senate?
« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2020, 06:28:19 PM »
Is there still a mathematical pathway for Ossoff to win GA without a runoff?
Yes. NYT currently showing 4,791,239 votes counted, and estimating 93% counted. That means estimated total is 4,791,239/93%=5,151,869, and majority is 2,575,935. Estimated remaining is 5,159,869*7%=360,630. Ossoff is at 2,266,043 and therefore could win outright with 309,892 of the estimated 360,630 votes. That's nearly 86% of the estimated remaining vote, so while mathematically possible I think we can put that possibility to bed.

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Re: Will the Rs hold the senate?
« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2020, 06:44:00 PM »
Yes. NYT currently showing 4,791,239 votes counted, and estimating 93% counted. That means estimated total is 4,791,239/93%=5,151,869, and majority is 2,575,935. Estimated remaining is 5,159,869*7%=360,630. Ossoff is at 2,266,043 and therefore could win outright with 309,892 of the estimated 360,630 votes. That's nearly 86% of the estimated remaining vote, so while mathematically possible I think we can put that possibility to bed.
Throw in an undercounting of remaining ballots + 10-20k uncounted but curable mail-in ballots... 70%+ D is very likely.

I would give Ossoff 10-15% odds?
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Re: Will the Rs hold the senate?
« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2020, 11:36:41 AM »
It seems almost certain at this point that Purdue will not get the 50 percent margin he needs in GA to avoid a runoff. This means that there will probably be runoff elections for BOTH GA seats on January 5.

The most likely scenario seems to be that Rs will have 50 seats to Ds 48, and those races will determine majority. It is set to be the most expensive races in history.

One plus for Rs: Democrat Senator Joe Manchin is almost guarenteed to lose next election in his Republican heavy state, and there is talk that he will switch party affiliations if the senate is 50-50, giving Reps the majority and giving himself a good shot at reelection.

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Re: Will the Rs hold the senate?
« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2020, 11:38:44 AM »

One plus for Rs: Democrat Senator Joe Manchin is almost guarenteed to lose next election in his Republican heavy state, and there is talk that he will switch party affiliations if the senate is 50-50, giving Reps the majority and giving himself a good shot at reelection.

After he voted for impeachment (remember that?) talk was that he probably isn't planning on running for reelection.

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Re: Will the Rs hold the senate?
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Re: Will the Rs hold the senate?
« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2020, 12:26:38 PM »
Double runoff.
Rs needs 1 to maintain control or 2 to maintain control even when Collins bails.
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Re: Will the Rs hold the senate?
« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2020, 12:29:36 PM »
Double runoff.
Rs needs 1 to maintain control or 2 to maintain control even when Collins bails.

What makes you think Collins will bail? Or are you referring to specific votes?

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Re: Will the Rs hold the senate?
« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2020, 12:30:46 PM »
Double runoff.
Rs needs 1 to maintain control or 2 to maintain control even when Collins bails.
How do the runoffs look?
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Re: Will the Rs hold the senate?
« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2020, 12:32:15 PM »
What makes you think Collins will bail? Or are you referring to specific votes?
The latter.
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Re: Will the Rs hold the senate?
« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2020, 12:32:41 PM »
How do the runoffs look?
Good for Rs, but we'll see what happens when D money starts pouring in.
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