Lame Duck Trump

[S209]

Why? To what end?

Possible answer: Because he hates Trump?

[PlatinumGuy]

Why? To what end?

Trump could’ve thought firing Esper would reflect badly on him come elections.
Esper is likely to work for defense contractors who are mostly republican, thus wouldn’t want to be seen as hurting the reelection

[PlatinumGuy]

https://twitter.com/farnazfassihi/status/1325898730499944448?s=21

I hope he does attack Iran, but considering the many Israel-Esper meetings, it doesn’t seem he was the one opposed to that

[CountValentine]

Why? To what end?

Esper went against Trump with using the military on the streets of the US. Trump gets rid of anyone that disagrees. That is a very dangerous person when QAnon is his source for information.

[Lurker]

Possible answer: Because he hates Trump?

This is assuming Esper quit, but Trump fired him first. If he wanted to hurt Trump, why not quit before the election to make problems? If he didn't want to hurt Trump, why quit with 72 days left? The job is over. Staying during transition and ensuring a smooth transfer should be in Esper's best interests professionally and is best for the country.

Trump could’ve thought firing Esper would reflect badly on him come elections.
Esper is likely to work for defense contractors who are mostly republican, thus wouldn’t want to be seen as hurting the reelection

Why with 72 days left? DoD shouldn't be on Trump's radar right now. What does Trump have planned over the next 2 months that this move would make a difference? That NY Times piece is what I'd be looking for.

Esper went against Trump with using the military on the streets of the US. Trump gets rid of anyone that disagrees. That is a very dangerous person when QAnon is his source for information.

If Trump got rid of everyone who disagrees, he'd be down to half his staff, especially now, when they have nothing to lose by voicing dissent. This is SECDEF. There's more here.

[CountValentine]

If Trump got rid of everyone who disagrees, he'd be down to half his staff, especially now, when they have nothing to lose by voicing dissent. This is SECDEF. There's more here.

This is just the beginning. FBI, AG, CIA all come to mind.

[PlatinumGuy]

This is just the beginning. FBI, AG, CIA all come to mind.

Gina Haspel will probably be the next.

I agree, Trump is plotting something...

[yelped]

This is when I hate Trump. Everything is petty.

[S209]

Trump could’ve thought firing Esper would reflect badly on him come elections.
Esper is likely to work for defense contractors who are mostly republican, thus wouldn’t want to be seen as hurting the reelection

This is from October 23

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/23/us/politics/mark-esper-trump-defense-secretary.html?

[yesitsme]

Its like before you close a WA group you don't want to leave and have everyone chatting behind your back, you remove everyone and then close the group

[zh cohen]

Esper is likely to work for defense contractors who are mostly republican, thus wouldn’t want to be seen as hurting the reelection

Defense Contractors Contribution 2019-20

Biden, Joe (D)       $2,421,336
Trump, Donald (R)       $1,652,591

[nsastamps]

This is assuming Esper quit, but Trump fired him first. If he wanted to hurt Trump, why not quit before the election to make problems? If he didn't want to hurt Trump, why quit with 72 days left? The job is over. Staying during transition and ensuring a smooth transfer should be in Esper's best interests professionally and is best for the country.

Why with 72 days left? DoD shouldn't be on Trump's radar right now. What does Trump have planned over the next 2 months that this move would make a difference? That NY Times piece is what I'd be looking for.

If Trump got rid of everyone who disagrees, he'd be down to half his staff, especially now, when they have nothing to lose by voicing dissent. This is SECDEF. There's more here.

If theres ay chance he'll win in the courts he'll need someone willing to use force to quash the massive riots/ civil unrest before it leads all out civil war 

[CountValentine]

If theres ay chance he'll win in the courts he'll need someone willing to use force to quash the massive riots/ civil unrest before it leads all out civil war

LOL
Glad I still have my guns!

[Lurker]

If theres ay chance he'll win in the courts he'll need someone willing to use force to quash the massive riots/ civil unrest before it leads all out civil war

Interesting theory.

[CountValentine]

Interesting theory.

LOL

[Lurker]

LOL

Not because the outcome is realistic, but because it's somewhat realistic to Trump's thinking.

[PlatinumGuy]

If theres ay chance he'll win in the courts he'll need someone willing to use force to quash the massive riots/ civil unrest before it leads all out civil war

Best theory I’ve heard so far

[CountValentine]

Not because the outcome is realistic, but because it's somewhat realistic to Trump's thinking.

OK I redact the comment.

[CountValentine]

Best theory I’ve heard so far

How about Trump needs the military to distribute the vaccine and he won't go along with it?

[nsastamps]

Not because the outcome is realistic, but because it's somewhat realistic to Trump's thinking.

I don’t expect Trump to win in the courts, but let’s say he does you don’t think we’ll be facing unprecedented looting and riots ? The kind of which will only go away with an army of force ? I don’t think he’ll win but we are in year 2020. I won’t be shocked.