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Re: Lame Duck Trump
« Reply #60 on: November 10, 2020, 08:22:11 PM »
How is that in any way relevant to the fact that people on this thread are coming up with bat-**** crazy conspiracy theories to explain why Trump fired the Defense Secretary?
What exactly is the pashut pshat in all the firings?

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Re: Lame Duck Trump
« Reply #61 on: November 10, 2020, 08:33:35 PM »
What exactly is the pashut pshat in all the firings?

I don't know, but it reports I've seen (including from Jake Tapper who is no fan of Trump's) say that Trump told them to get the troops out of Afghanistan, and they refused.

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Re: Lame Duck Trump
« Reply #62 on: November 10, 2020, 08:36:44 PM »
What conspiracy theories?
This for one
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Re: Lame Duck Trump
« Reply #63 on: November 10, 2020, 08:50:49 PM »
I don't know, but it reports I've seen (including from Jake Tapper who is no fan of Trump's) say that Trump told them to get the troops out of Afghanistan, and they refused.

Presidents don't just replace Cabinet members on their way out of office. It doesn't happen. And the entire civilian leadership team at the Pentagon? It's unprecedented. Unless it serves an actionable purpose within the next 10 weeks, it does absolutely nothing other than make transitioning to the new administration infinitely harder. You can't say this is business as usual.
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Re: Lame Duck Trump
« Reply #64 on: November 10, 2020, 08:52:48 PM »
Presidents don't just replace Cabinet members on their way out of office. It doesn't happen. And the entire civilian leadership team at the Pentagon? It's unprecedented. Unless it serves an actionable purpose within the next 10 weeks, it does absolutely nothing other than make transitioning to the new administration infinitely harder. You can't say this is business as usual.
Or he really believes that after all is said and done, he will be president for another 4 years. Who knows

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Re: Lame Duck Trump
« Reply #65 on: November 10, 2020, 08:54:04 PM »
White house ordered agencies to prepare February budget......
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Re: Lame Duck Trump
« Reply #66 on: November 10, 2020, 08:56:02 PM »
White house ordered agencies to prepare February budget......
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Re: Lame Duck Trump
« Reply #67 on: November 10, 2020, 08:57:51 PM »
Presidents don't just replace Cabinet members on their way out of office. It doesn't happen. And the entire civilian leadership team at the Pentagon? It's unprecedented. Unless it serves an actionable purpose within the next 10 weeks, it does absolutely nothing other than make transitioning to the new administration infinitely harder. You can't say this is business as usual.

Cabinet officials don't just defy orders from the president.

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Re: Lame Duck Trump
« Reply #68 on: November 10, 2020, 09:08:20 PM »
Or he really believes that after all is said and done, he will be president for another 4 years. Who knows

Possible. It's still abnormal enough to make me curious.
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Re: Lame Duck Trump
« Reply #69 on: November 10, 2020, 09:10:26 PM »
Itís not the entire Defense department civilian leadership. So far itís 3-4 people
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Re: Lame Duck Trump
« Reply #70 on: November 10, 2020, 09:12:36 PM »
Cabinet officials don't just defy orders from the president.

I haven't seen where Esper actually defied an order. You have a source for that?
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Re: Lame Duck Trump
« Reply #71 on: November 10, 2020, 09:15:13 PM »
I haven't seen where Esper actually defied an order. You have a source for that?

Saw a Jake Tapper tweet.

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Re: Lame Duck Trump
« Reply #72 on: November 10, 2020, 09:16:37 PM »
Itís not the entire Defense department civilian leadership. So far itís 3-4 people

Secretary of Defense, SECDEF Chief of Staff, Undersecretary of Defense (Policy), Undersecretary of Defense (Intelligence).
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« Reply #73 on: November 10, 2020, 09:21:17 PM »
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Re: Lame Duck Trump
« Reply #74 on: November 10, 2020, 09:21:46 PM »
Secretary of Defense, SECDEF Chief of Staff, Undersecretary of Defense (Policy), Undersecretary of Defense (Intelligence).
Thats a lot but far from everybody. Isnít Chief of staff melodramatic? Wouldnít that be a given to replace when thereís a new Secretary?
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« Reply #75 on: November 10, 2020, 09:29:21 PM »
Thats a lot but far from everybody. Isnít Chief of staff melodramatic? Wouldnít that be a given to replace when thereís a new Secretary?

I have no idea. It certainly makes sense, although I don't know what protocol is regarding transition periods.
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Re: Lame Duck Trump
« Reply #76 on: November 10, 2020, 09:38:26 PM »
Cabinet officials don't just defy orders from the president.
Why do you keep posting this crap?
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Re: Lame Duck Trump
« Reply #77 on: November 10, 2020, 09:56:20 PM »
Saw a Jake Tapper tweet.
Jake Tapper's twitter account belongs somewhere between the Onion's and the Babylon Bee's.

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Re: Lame Duck Trump
« Reply #78 on: November 10, 2020, 10:58:24 PM »
Jake Tapper's twitter account belongs somewhere between the Onion's and the Babylon Bee's.

I've seen others saying the same thing. I quoted Tapper for the people who wanted an anti-Trump source.

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Re: Lame Duck Trump
« Reply #79 on: November 10, 2020, 11:06:10 PM »
Say what? How could they be doing a good job distributing if they donít even have EUA yet?....
Theyíve announced partnerships with logistic giants & container tech
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