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Would Trump Have Won If COVID Never Happened?

Yes
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No
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Re: Would Trump Have Won If COVID Never Happened? (Poll)
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2020, 08:33:31 PM »
Fact is, Ds need to take a long, hard look in the mirror, because they spent four years calling Trump, Rs, and conservatives, racists, sexists, homophobes, and bigots; they expected a blue wave the size of the Thai tsunami and barely got one the size of stepping in a puddle.

Trump, for all they tried to paint him as the world's greatest fascist and white supremacist who ever lived, increased his electorate vote by every demographic other than white men. Yes, more Blacks and Latinos, and more than seven million more votes in the aggregate.

Blow conservatives out of the water, the Ds did not. The "pack the supreme court" "add states" "defund the police" contingent failed -- miserably.
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Re: Would Trump Have Won If COVID Never Happened? (Poll)
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2020, 08:36:50 PM »
I'm not die-hard Trumper,
Are you the least die-hard Trumper?  :)
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Re: Would Trump Have Won If COVID Never Happened? (Poll)
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2020, 08:40:43 PM »
Why is it the only place I hear "I hate Trump but love his policies" is here?
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Re: Would Trump Have Won If COVID Never Happened? (Poll)
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2020, 08:51:04 PM »
Why is it the only place I hear "I hate Trump but love his policies" is here?

And in the election results

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Re: Would Trump Have Won If COVID Never Happened? (Poll)
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2020, 08:54:07 PM »


Trump, for all they tried to paint him as the world's greatest fascist and white supremacist who ever lived, increased his electorate vote by every demographic other than white men. Yes, more Blacks and Latinos, and more than seven million more votes in the aggregate.

While your points are well stated, and personally I agree with them, I'd caution using exit polls which are notoriously bad. It will take a few months to get more accurate data.

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Re: Would Trump Have Won If COVID Never Happened? (Poll)
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2020, 08:54:17 PM »
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Re: Would Trump Have Won If COVID Never Happened? (Poll)
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2020, 08:57:30 PM »
Basically if Elections took place in January 2020.

Would Trump have won?
Yes
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Re: Would Trump Have Won If COVID Never Happened? (Poll)
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2020, 09:07:14 PM »
Why is it the only place I hear "I hate Trump but love his policies" is here?

Shy Trump voter effect
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Re: Would Trump Have Won If COVID Never Happened? (Poll)
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2020, 09:09:19 PM »
Shy Trump voter effect
They are not shy. They support him. Look at the massive super spreaders he had. They love him!!!
His core base 30-40% love him.
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Re: Would Trump Have Won If COVID Never Happened? (Poll)
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2020, 09:10:11 PM »
They are not shy. They support him. Look at the massive super spreaders he had. They love him!!!
His core base 30-40% love him.
They love how he is fighting back in order to survive

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Re: Would Trump Have Won If COVID Never Happened? (Poll)
« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2020, 09:12:07 PM »
They are not shy. They support him. Look at the massive super spreaders he had. They love him!!!
His core base 30-40% love him.

The ones you see and hear in the news are not shy. The rest that mainly just show up at the ballot booth are.

E: It feels threatening to wear a Trump hat or let their views be known publicaly, so until someone is unabashedly pro-Trump and over that hump you won't hear about them.
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Re: Would Trump Have Won If COVID Never Happened? (Poll)
« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2020, 09:14:28 PM »
increased his electorate vote by every demographic other than white men. Yes, more Blacks and Latinos, and more than seven million more votes in the aggregate.
He can add this to the resume: Counties with worst virus surges overwhelmingly voted Trump
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Re: Would Trump Have Won If COVID Never Happened? (Poll)
« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2020, 09:15:51 PM »
Why is it the only place I hear "I hate Trump but love his policies" is here?
You do spend an inordinate amount of time here...

Perhaps you should get out more :)

Most folks are looking beyond Trump, while at the same time avoiding contracting TDS, to be able appreciate the accomplishments instead of getting hung up on the trivialities.

Others just made this a referendum on the raging left-wing radicals.

Either way, Trump's policies trump.
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Re: Would Trump Have Won If COVID Never Happened? (Poll)
« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2020, 09:17:39 PM »
Shy Trump voter effect
I continue to believe this is real, in a meaningful way.

Nothing else can explain this election.
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Re: Would Trump Have Won If COVID Never Happened? (Poll)
« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2020, 09:21:23 PM »
Perhaps you should get out more :)
Been going on bike rides.
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Re: Would Trump Have Won If COVID Never Happened? (Poll)
« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2020, 09:24:36 PM »
Most folks are looking beyond Trump, while at the same time avoiding contracting TDS, to be able appreciate the accomplishments instead of getting hung up on the trivialities.
This is the problem. One side looks at it as accomplishments and the other side as failures.
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Re: Would Trump Have Won If COVID Never Happened? (Poll)
« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2020, 09:27:08 PM »
I think in retrospect it was Trump's election to lose, COVID or not, and he did a great job at ensuring it was this close. If he encouraged mail-in ballots instead of bashing it he would win in an electoral land slide.

As Trump said many times about 2016, you campaign to win, popular vote doesn't matter. Well, promoting mail-in voting is campaigning to win, and he did the exact opposite.
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Re: Would Trump Have Won If COVID Never Happened? (Poll)
« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2020, 09:28:28 PM »
I think in retrospect it was Trump's election to lose, COVID or not, and he did a great job at ensuring it was this close. If he encouraged mail-in ballots instead of bashing it he would win in an electoral land slide.

As Trump said many times about 2016, you campaign to win, popular vote doesn't matter. Well, promoting mail-in voting is campaigning to win, and he did the exact opposite.
Last two elections historians will show the blunders of each.
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Re: Would Trump Have Won If COVID Never Happened? (Poll)
« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2020, 09:32:14 PM »
I think in retrospect it was Trump's election to lose, COVID or not, and he did a great job at ensuring it was this close. If he encouraged mail-in ballots instead of bashing it he would win in an electoral land slide.

As Trump said many times about 2016, you campaign to win, popular vote doesn't matter. Well, promoting mail-in voting is campaigning to win, and he did the exact opposite.
Do you think people didn't vote in person or by mail because he railed against mail?
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Re: Would Trump Have Won If COVID Never Happened? (Poll)
« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2020, 09:34:20 PM »
Do you think people didn't vote in person or by mail because he railed against mail?
I know Trump supporters in NJ who made sure to vote in person because they were convinced their ballot wouldn’t count by mail. Yes, in NJ.

Personally, I can’t understand why someone would *not* use the ballot conveniently mailed to their door.
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