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How did Biden win the 2020 Election?

Widespread premeditated fraud orchestrated by senior DNC figures & known to Biden
Enough legitimate votes to win, perhaps negligible amounts of fraud
Individual level fraud prevalent enough amongst Democrats to swing the election

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Re: Do you think Biden Stole The 2020 Elections?
« Reply #200 on: November 08, 2020, 11:07:09 AM »
Nevada. They want to throw out votes for individuals that don't have residence there. Military are allowed to vote there without official residence.
They want no votes counted being received after 11/3. Military votes are allowed to be counted even if received after 11/3. Depending on the state it can be 7 days or more.
Do I need to continue?  >:( >:( >:(

So the 6k+ votes that are in question are all military, talk about conspiracy theorists...

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Re: Do you think Biden Stole The 2020 Elections?
« Reply #201 on: November 08, 2020, 11:13:30 AM »
So the 6k+ votes that are in question are all military, talk about conspiracy theorists...
I never said that but nice spin. Trying to disallow 1 military vote is a disgrace.
Stopping the count on 11/3 would most likely disallow thousands of military votes.
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Re: Do you think Biden Stole The 2020 Elections?
« Reply #202 on: November 08, 2020, 12:01:42 PM »
I never said that but nice spin. Trying to disallow 1 military vote is a disgrace.
Stopping the count on 11/3 would most likely disallow thousands of military votes.
Totally agree, so anyone who moved out of the state thats not in the military and still voted, their vote should be cancelled.

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Re: Do you think Biden Stole The 2020 Elections?
« Reply #203 on: November 08, 2020, 12:05:35 PM »
Totally agree, so anyone who moved out of the state thats not in the military and still voted, their vote should be cancelled.
Depends on the state. Nevada has some rules about college kids and other situations.
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Re: Do you think Biden Stole The 2020 Elections?
« Reply #204 on: November 08, 2020, 12:11:39 PM »
I never said that but nice spin. Trying to disallow 1 military vote is a disgrace.

Allowing one illegal ballot is also a disgrace. The Trump campaign found many ballots that seem to be illegitimate. They referred it to the authorities to look into. Some of them might be legitimate, and should be counted. Others (and if they did their job properly most) will be illegitimate and would have canceled out a valid vote if not for the Trump campaign doing the board of elections job for it.

Stopping the count on 11/3 would most likely disallow thousands of military votes.

Overseas ballots are dealt with the differently (and have different laws) than other mail-in ballots. Anyone conflating the two is either ignorant, a Democrat hack or a troll (maybe all three).

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Re: Do you think Biden Stole The 2020 Elections?
« Reply #205 on: November 08, 2020, 12:32:26 PM »
Overseas ballots are dealt with the differently (and have different laws) than other mail-in ballots. Anyone conflating the two is either ignorant, a Democrat hack or a troll (maybe all three).
Mail in votes also have different laws. Anyone conflating the two is either ignorant, a hack or a troll (maybe all three).
Stopping the count on 11/3 would disallow thousands of legal military votes and tens of thousands (if not millions) of legal mail in votes.
Try and show an ounce of objectivity.
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Re: Do you think Biden Stole The 2020 Elections?
« Reply #206 on: November 08, 2020, 12:37:37 PM »
Why do people assume that Biden voters were more likely to cast fraudulent votes than Trump voters?

If it's just about legitimate ballots that were dropped into post box before election but were not processed in time, I'm having a hard time feeling sufficiently scandalized by that, especially since Biden won the popular vote by so many votes.

I'm as displeased with the results as the next guy, but I think it's pretty clear who more Americans voted for.

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Re: Do you think Biden Stole The 2020 Elections?
« Reply #207 on: November 08, 2020, 12:39:40 PM »
Why do people assume that Biden voters were more likely to cast fraudulent votes than Trump voters?
Some can't look at anything objectively. They would make the worse jurors.
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Re: Do you think Biden Stole The 2020 Elections?
« Reply #208 on: November 08, 2020, 01:13:26 PM »
Mail in votes also have different laws. Anyone conflating the two is either ignorant, a hack or a troll (maybe all three).

Different than what?

Stopping the count on 11/3 would disallow thousands of legal military votes and tens of thousands (if not millions) of legal mail in votes.
Try and show an ounce of objectivity.

Of course they should count all the legally cast ballots. The Trump campaign wanted it to stop being done in secret. (And yes, Trump says a lot of stupid things that hurt him)

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Re: Do you think Biden Stole The 2020 Elections?
« Reply #209 on: November 08, 2020, 01:14:22 PM »
Why do people assume that Biden voters were more likely to cast fraudulent votes than Trump voters?

If it's just about legitimate ballots that were dropped into post box before election but were not processed in time, I'm having a hard time feeling sufficiently scandalized by that, especially since Biden won the popular vote by so many votes.

I'm as displeased with the results as the next guy, but I think it's pretty clear who more Americans voted for.

It's about sticking to the rules, and not changing them to benefit one side.

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Re: Do you think Biden Stole The 2020 Elections?
« Reply #210 on: November 08, 2020, 01:31:46 PM »
The PA SC wrote that they can only change the deadline for receiving ballots if they found it unconstitutional (or if a problem arose on the day of the election).

The law that set that deadline was the same law that allowed mail in voting in the first place.

The law explicitly said that if any part of the law was found unconstitutional, then the whole law is invalid.

4 Judges who were elected as Democrats illegally changed the rules of an election to benefit Biden. If that's not widespread enough for you, I'm not sure what is.
So to be clear, your evidence of widespread fraud is a public ruling you disagree with by a state Supreme Court that a conservative SCOTUS has thus far not chosen to rule on? Interesting way of looking at things.

It's about sticking to the rules, and not changing them to benefit one side.
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Re: Do you think Biden Stole The 2020 Elections?
« Reply #211 on: November 08, 2020, 01:54:43 PM »
Different than what?
Than voting in person and military votes.
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Re: Do you think Biden Stole The 2020 Elections?
« Reply #212 on: November 08, 2020, 01:56:27 PM »
Interesting way of looking at things.
You are to kind.
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Re: Do you think Biden Stole The 2020 Elections?
« Reply #213 on: November 08, 2020, 02:08:32 PM »
This thread does not make me hopeful about America's ability to resist authoritarian/facist rhetoric or regimes.

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Re: Do you think Biden Stole The 2020 Elections?
« Reply #214 on: November 08, 2020, 02:13:00 PM »
This thread does not make me hopeful about America's ability to resist authoritarian/facist rhetoric or regimes.
This thread represents .00000000000001 of America.  ;)
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Re: Do you think Biden Stole The 2020 Elections?
« Reply #215 on: November 08, 2020, 02:16:08 PM »
This thread represents .00000000000001 of America.  ;)

Unfortunately this stat is not of much comfort because these people are presumably more highly educated than the average conservative and more aware of the dangers of authoritarianism than the average conservative.

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Re: Do you think Biden Stole The 2020 Elections?
« Reply #216 on: November 08, 2020, 02:18:14 PM »
Unfortunately this stat is not of much comfort because these people are presumably more highly educated than the average conservative and more aware of the dangers of authoritarianism than the average conservative.
What type of education? Based on my experience here, I'd say the majority of DDFers do not have more than a high school education (if that). Internet != education.

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Re: Do you think Biden Stole The 2020 Elections?
« Reply #217 on: November 08, 2020, 02:18:35 PM »
https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/10/08/carrollton-mayoral-candidate-zul-mirza-mohamed-arrested-voter-fraud/

For all those suggesting voter fraud doesn't happen with mail in ballots..

It really boils down to who is in control of local and state politics to decide if they would/should allow it and it usually depends who it favors.

JUST FYI, those who know don't talk and those who talk don't usually know..........

IT HAPPENS WAY TO OFTEN EVEN IN SMALL SCALE  ELECTIONS. And I mean elections that attracts 1k votes total...

ITS SAD but TRUE

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Re: Do you think Biden Stole The 2020 Elections?
« Reply #218 on: November 08, 2020, 02:19:41 PM »
This thread represents .00000000000001 of America.  ;)
Unfortunately, this thread’s view is representative of around a third of America, IMO.
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Re: Do you think Biden Stole The 2020 Elections?
« Reply #219 on: November 08, 2020, 03:13:27 PM »
Than voting in person and military votes.

So the guy conflating mail in and Military is
either ignorant, a hack or a troll (maybe all three).
?

You should have a chat with the guy who said
Nevada. They want to throw out votes for individuals that don't have residence there. Military are allowed to vote there without official residence.