***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***

[TimT]

That was the whole point. It is a popularity poll.

Ah, so you meant that the article was a nothingburger. Thanks for clearing it up.

[CountValentine]

Inflation adjusted?

In the last quarter of 2022, the nation’s gross domestic product, the value of all goods and services produced in the U.S., expanded at a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 2.9%. The gains can be traced to solid consumer spending and business stockpiling.

[aygart]

The gains can be traced to solid consumer spending and business stockpiling.

Is that a no?

[CountValentine]

Is that a no?

You were asking if it was inflation adjusted. I found that about the feds meeting today which states it was inflation adjusted.

ETA: You asked "inflation" adjusted, my bad. I have no idea.

[TimT]

What charges can Biden face for taking classified documents as a senator ?

[CountValentine]

What charges can Biden face for taking classified documents as a senator ?

The same as VP? He had no right to take them.

[TimT]

The same as VP? He had no right to take them.

What charges

How many years in prison can he be facing ?

[CountValentine]

How many years in prison can he be facing ?

It does not look like he violated the law but I could be wrong.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1924

[TimT]

It does not look like he violated the law but I could be wrong.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1924

I didn’t click the link yet, are you saying only Biden didn’t violate the law or Pence & Trump didn’t either ?

[aygart]

You were asking if it was inflation adjusted. I found that about the feds meeting today which states it was inflation adjusted.

ETA: You asked "inflation" adjusted, my bad. I have no idea.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/realgdp.asp
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/030515/when-do-economists-use-real-gdp-instead-gdp.asp

[CountValentine]

I didn’t click the link yet, are you saying only Biden didn’t violate the law or Pence & Trump didn’t either ?

The way I read it Biden and Pence didn't and Trump did.
I am assuming Biden and Pence did not know they had them.

(a)Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.

[TimT]

I am assuming Biden and Pence did not know they had them.

They brought it home, how can they claim they didn’t know ?

Biden used to take the train. Extremely careless & dangerous if he had these documents with him then.

[CountValentine]

They brought it home, how can they claim they didn’t know ?

I bring a suitcase to LAS. I have no idea what's in it because the DW packs it. 

[TimT]

I bring a suitcase to LAS. I have no idea what's in it because the DW packs it. 

Joe brings CLASSIFIED docs home FROM work. Who packed it ?

[CountValentine]

Joe brings CLASSIFIED docs home FROM work. Who packed it ?

Have no idea if that is true. There is a special counsel investigating this and I am all for it.

[TimT]

Have no idea if that is true.

Which part ?

[TimT]

Why isn’t this being viewed as theft, whether classified or not ?

If a bank is robbed & a large number of marked bills turn up at my house can I just claim that I didn’t know I had them ? Potentially AFAF

[CountValentine]

Why isn’t this being viewed as theft, whether classified or not ?

If a bank is robbed & a large number of marked bills turn up at my house can I just claim that I didn’t know I had them ? Potentially AFAF

You have a special counsel investigating this.
I fail to see the issue here.

[TimT]

You have a special counsel investigating this.
I fail to see the issue here.

Why no “special counsel investigation” if I steal ?
I steal, I get arrested. Our current & former President steal & we get special investigations, which can take years & they likely never see a day in prison.

The investigation isn’t IF they stole, it’s HOW they stole & how serious these documents are & if/how much damage might have been caused by it.

But 1 thing is clear, documents were stolen & documents were recovered. Is there anyone debating this ?

[CountValentine]

But 1 thing is clear, documents were stolen & documents were recovered. Is there anyone debating this ?

Yes to the stolen part. I would use the word "removed".