***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***

[TimT]

Yes to the stolen part. I would use the word "removed".

Difference being ?

[CountValentine]

Difference being ?

One sounds illegal which remains to be seen.

[TimT]

One sounds illegal which remains to be seen.

Removing things which you aren’t allowed to is illegal.

[CountValentine]

Removing things which you aren’t allowed to is illegal.

The law does not say that.

[aygart]

Removing things which you aren’t allowed to is illegal.

Oh comon.

[TimT]

I am assuming Biden and Pence did not know they had them.

Why do you assume they didn’t know ?

[CountValentine]

Why do you assume they didn’t know ?

I just figure more likely than not. Either way what I assume doesn't matter.

[TimT]

Oh comon.

Why is this different than a teller removing money from the bank & taking it home ? With the intention of bringing the money back, of course.

[CountValentine]

Why is this different than a teller removing money from the bank & taking it home ? With the intention of bringing the money back, of course.

Did she knowingly take the money?

[TimT]

Did she knowingly take the money?

She says “I don’t know how it got here”

And it happened numerous times

[CountValentine]

She says “I don’t know how it got here”

Investigation should happen.

What is your point? Biden should have been arrested?

[TimT]

Investigation should happen.

Yet average Joe gets perpwalked first & then investigated.

If politicians are held to a different standard it should be a higher one, not the reverse.

[CountValentine]

Yet average Joe gets perpwalked first & then investigated.

If politicians are held to a different standard it should be a higher one, not the reverse.

I am not disagreeing with you. We need the law changed then.

[aygart]

Why is this different than a teller removing money from the bank & taking it home ? With the intention of bringing the money back, of course.

Come on. Presidents and Veeps are legally allowed to take thousands of documents with them when they leave office. It would be shocking if there were no classified documents that got mixed in.

[TimT]

Come on. Presidents and Veeps are legally allowed to take thousands of documents with them when they leave office. It would be shocking if there were no classified documents that got mixed in.

Inform the DOJ of this so they can stop wasting time, money & resources on drawn out investigations.

When dealing with things of such a sensitive nature there needs to be extra levels of (care, responsibility- the word escapes me) that it never happens. The average American isn’t allowed to lay eyes on these documents. And it’s not just when leaving office. Biden was a senator taking the train home. His properties weren’t even secure at that point. Literally anyone could’ve come & gone.

[CountValentine]

The average American isn’t allowed to lay eyes on these documents.

None of the 4.2mm with clearance are average? 

[TimT]

None of the 4.2mm with clearance are average? 

There are many different levels of clearance & no.

[CountValentine]

There are many different levels of clearance & no.

1.3mm with top level.

[TimT]

1.3mm with top level.

As high as the president & VP ?

[CountValentine]

As high as the president & VP ?

Not sure: https://news.clearancejobs.com/2022/08/16/how-many-people-have-a-top-secret-security-clearance/#:~:text=The%20total%20number%20of%20individuals%20with%20eligibility%20to,million%20individuals%20with%20a%20Top%20Secret%20security%20clearance.