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Re: The Biden Covid Response
« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2020, 02:19:53 PM »
No one is going to take credit for anything Trump did with covid with 250k+ dead!!!
This has to be one of your worse conspiracy theories blaming Trump for the Covid deaths.

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Re: The Biden Covid Response
« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2020, 03:39:20 PM »
1. Business stimulus is a separate plan. Come on. It does say 'Provide a “restart package” that helps small businesses cover the costs of operating safely, including things like plexiglass and PPE'
2. US Positivity rate is 9.6%. That's not enough. More tests = faster results. New testing tech = faster results.
3. It's a given that vaccine will be approved ASAP. What needs saying is that it will be safe.
4. He's not against the EOs.
5. It's a waste after an an outbreak but will be important before the next outbreak
I numbered your points for responses.
1. Businesses do not want stimulus they want to operate. If they need stimulus to stay open the stimulus will not help. Stimulus is almost irrelevant in a discussion of reopening. This is not only a question of keeping businesses open. It is that if there is no exit plan then any restrictions are doomed to failure unless enforced with guns. Not having a real reopening plan as part and parcel of the COVID plan means that the whole plan won't work.
2. This is patently false. More tests means LONGER wait times for results. What needs to be expanded is lab capacity and technology. After initial blunders this has been fasttracked by the FDA due to Trump EOs and has mostly been a success of Trump. That can be built on further.
3. Now that the Biden campaign has told everyone that this is a concern without any factual basis they need do dig themselves out of the hole of their own creation.
4. When EOs are viewed as arbitrary and punitive that will undermine any plan even if in reality they are not.
5. They can be helpful at the beginning of an outbreak if they do not incentivize secrecy and if they can be quick enough. The major contact tracing touted by Murphy was a joke considering that by the time they called anyone their quarantine was already finished.
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Re: The Biden Covid Response
« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2020, 03:58:31 PM »
The major contact tracing touted by Murphy was a joke considering that by the time they called anyone their quarantine was already finished.
I got a call 12 hours after we had a positive (Yom Kippur).

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Re: The Biden Covid Response
« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2020, 04:00:10 PM »
I got a call 12 hours after we had a positive (Yom Kippur).
I was called three days after a positive which was a week after the test was taken. By the time they would have told anyone it was way too late.
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Re: The Biden Covid Response
« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2020, 04:26:33 PM »
This has to be one of your worse conspiracy theories blaming Trump for the Covid deaths.
You mean worse than an election when you lose by more than 4 million votes and claim it was stolen?
For the record he doesn't get credit for all the deaths.  :P
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Re: The Biden Covid Response
« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2020, 04:30:35 PM »
You mean worse than an election when you lose by more than 4 million votes and claim it was stolen?
For the record he doesn't get credit for all the deaths.  :P
He "lost by 4 million votes" in 2016 as well, and worked out for him then ;)
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Re: The Biden Covid Response
« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2020, 04:54:14 PM »
You mean worse than an election when you lose by more than 4 million votes and claim it was stolen?
For the record he doesn't get credit for all the deaths.  :P
In almost every recent political conversation on DDF you have come up with conspiracy theories.

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Re: The Biden Covid Response
« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2020, 04:54:27 PM »
He "lost by 4 million votes" in 2016 as well, and worked out for him then ;)
Nice try but #fakenews.
You going to come out of the closet?  :)
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Re: The Biden Covid Response
« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2020, 04:55:54 PM »
In almost every recent political conversation on DDF you have come up with conspiracy theories.
I come up with conspiracy theories?  :)
I am making fun of you conspiracy nuts!!!
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Re: The Biden Covid Response
« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2020, 05:12:42 PM »
-Faster test results is 1000x more important than scaling up quantity of testing which has been pretty sufficient.
+100000000000000

-Tell us that you will approve a vaccine for those at risk as fast as possible based on risk/reward, not wait until 48.7k scientists verify its safety in 2028.
-Tell us how you will help people get back to work and help businesses. Not even a mention??
Why would he? How would it help him? He (and his puppeteers) definitely don't care about it. Will it sway the GA races? I don't think so, those are all about who can get out more voters (or conduct more sophisticated fraud).

-Tell us how you will fight the states abusing executive orders and state of emergency

ROTFLMAO....

This one might take the cake for the most ridiculous expectation from a politician to be posted online.

-Realize that contact tracing is an absolute waste after an outbreak. It’s a useful as hiring sex Ed teachers to serve in the maternity ward.

Exactly! And that's why he is most likely to invest heavily into it. Politicians love wasteful spending on useless things that are nothing more than symbolic. Especially if they're from the Blue persuasion.
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Re: The Biden Covid Response
« Reply #30 on: November 09, 2020, 08:46:49 PM »
I numbered your points for responses.
1. Businesses do not want stimulus they want to operate. If they need stimulus to stay open the stimulus will not help. Stimulus is almost irrelevant in a discussion of reopening. This is not only a question of keeping businesses open. It is that if there is no exit plan then any restrictions are doomed to failure unless enforced with guns. Not having a real reopening plan as part and parcel of the COVID plan means that the whole plan won't work.

And here is this assertion (more or less) spelled out:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-09/u-k-airports-want-immediate-progress-on-testing-vaccine-or-not
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Re: The Biden Covid Response
« Reply #31 on: November 09, 2020, 10:42:45 PM »
Feelings don't care about your facts