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Re: Help Me Find It! - The Search Master Thread
« Reply #6900 on: July 28, 2024, 04:47:19 PM »
Is there a better place to ask this?
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Re: Help Me Find It! - The Search Master Thread
« Reply #6901 on: July 31, 2024, 12:49:59 PM »
thread for ddf suggestions?
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Re: Help Me Find It! - The Search Master Thread
« Reply #6904 on: July 31, 2024, 10:01:53 PM »
Ok here’s a long shot: I vaguely recall Dan writing up an article on DDMS I believe came from information here on ddf about some kind of peculiar scam on eBay or Amazon wherein you order something from a seller w zero reviews basically a non real selling account. And when they don’t send the item you get refunded. So what was the purpose? That was the contents of the article explaining what these accounts are trying to do. Anyone know where on ddf or maybe ddms that write up is?

For context, although I strongly feel this is not the one, I found this one
https://www.dansdeals.com/shopping-deals/amazon/no-youre-not-getting-those-ecco-shoes-for-14-99/

Is there something else out there??
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Re: Help Me Find It! - The Search Master Thread
« Reply #6905 on: July 31, 2024, 11:57:20 PM »
Ok here’s a long shot: I vaguely recall Dan writing up an article on DDMS I believe came from information here on ddf about some kind of peculiar scam on eBay or Amazon wherein you order something from a seller w zero reviews basically a non real selling account. And when they don’t send the item you get refunded. So what was the purpose? That was the contents of the article explaining what these accounts are trying to do. Anyone know where on ddf or maybe ddms that write up is?

For context, although I strongly feel this is not the one, I found this one
https://www.dansdeals.com/shopping-deals/amazon/no-youre-not-getting-those-ecco-shoes-for-14-99/

Is there something else out there??

Maybe this?

As you probably know, there is a big issue with Amazon reviews not being trustworthy due to a large number of fake reviews placed on products through reviewer manipulation. I have gone quite far down the rabbit hole of the massive fake-review industry, and I would like to share my findings here in the hope that some keyboard vigilantes will help me take down some of these operations.

The way the process usually goes is as follows:
The seller orders a certain number of five-star reviews from a fake review operation.
The manager of the operation sends the orders to freelance workers who attract reviewers, primarily through Facebook and Telegram.
The reviewers are asked to provide the email associated with their PayPal account and the link to their amazon public profile.
The freelance worker sends them a link to the item.
The reviewer orders the item and sends a screenshot of the order confirmation.
All of this information is relayed back to the manager.
After the reviewer receives the item, they write a five-star review.
After the review goes live, the manager checks the reviewer's amazon profile to confirm that a five-star review was written, and sends a full refund for the item to the reviewer, and sometimes an additional commission of around $30
The freelance workers receive a small commission on each review, sometimes less than a dollar.
The manager charges the seller the cost of refunding the reviewers, as well as a commission of a few dollars per review.

Nearly all of the fake review operations are run from China, which is no surprise. They communicate internally through WeChat or Telegram.
They are usually not the brightest, and I have pulled quite a few good ones on these guys, more on that soon.
They are persistent as anything and are constantly hounding reviewers to review more and more items.
They usually want reviews for newly listed items that have no reviews.

Now for what we can do. It's really very simple. You ask to review the items and after they pay out the refund, you delete your five-star review and replace it with an honest one. You report the seller's Amazon accounts to Amazon. You report the PayPal account that you receive the payment from to Paypal. PayPal is especially good with removing scams from their service and often bans their accounts after seeing screenshots of incriminating conversations. It is also quite easy to get these guys to reveal information such as the contact info of their managers and the identity of their other reviewers. They are so gullible that I actually counter-scammed one scammer for hundreds of dollars by claiming that a competing seller was paying me more than he was to change my review. Of course, there was no competing seller, but I wasn't going to let that stop me. I also convinced him to change his name on Telegram to Jedigl Margoon, telling him that it was an American name and would make him sound more trustworthy.

My goal is to make these guys lose so many Amazon and PayPal accounts, and so much money that they will be forced to shut down their operation. I have some big ideas for this project, such a creating a browser plugin that would take data from a database of suspicious sellers and items and warn users of fake reviews before they check out. If you are interested in some scam-baiting (and a whole lot of free Chinese junk) let me know and I can direct you to some of these operations to start on.
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Re: Help Me Find It! - The Search Master Thread
« Reply #6906 on: August 01, 2024, 03:56:43 AM »
Ok here’s a long shot: I vaguely recall Dan writing up an article on DDMS I believe came from information here on ddf about some kind of peculiar scam on eBay or Amazon wherein you order something from a seller w zero reviews basically a non real selling account. And when they don’t send the item you get refunded. So what was the purpose? That was the contents of the article explaining what these accounts are trying to do. Anyone know where on ddf or maybe ddms that write up is?

For context, although I strongly feel this is not the one, I found this one
https://www.dansdeals.com/shopping-deals/amazon/no-youre-not-getting-those-ecco-shoes-for-14-99/

Is there something else out there??
This should be the most up-to-date.
https://www.dansdeals.com/shopping-deals/amazon/amazon-3rd-party-seller-scam-explained-no-youre-not-getting-free-mini-computer-amazon/
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Re: Help Me Find It! - The Search Master Thread
« Reply #6907 on: August 01, 2024, 07:37:44 PM »
There was a thread discussing an unadvertised T-Mobile hotspot plan 30GB/$10 a month. Anyone know where that was?

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Re: Help Me Find It! - The Search Master Thread
« Reply #6908 on: August 01, 2024, 10:38:38 PM »
There was a thread discussing an unadvertised T-Mobile hotspot plan 30GB/$10 a month. Anyone know where that was?
@Yo ssi I think you may have been the one to post it

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Re: Help Me Find It! - The Search Master Thread
« Reply #6912 on: August 01, 2024, 11:19:35 PM »
Maybe this?

This should be the most up-to-date.
https://www.dansdeals.com/shopping-deals/amazon/amazon-3rd-party-seller-scam-explained-no-youre-not-getting-free-mini-computer-amazon/

Sorry for not replying earlier- thank you! The ddms link was what I was remembering, although the other post is also very interesting. Thank you both!
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Re: Help Me Find It! - The Search Master Thread
« Reply #6913 on: August 14, 2024, 12:06:04 AM »
Is there a thread for US passport appointment tips?

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Re: Help Me Find It! - The Search Master Thread
« Reply #6915 on: August 19, 2024, 03:34:29 PM »
Where would I ask if all hotels can be booked with Amex Credit?

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Re: Help Me Find It! - The Search Master Thread
« Reply #6916 on: August 30, 2024, 02:16:28 PM »
What's the best thread to ask about cc trip delay reimbursement?

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Re: Help Me Find It! - The Search Master Thread
« Reply #6917 on: August 31, 2024, 09:47:41 PM »
Any thread on PHL airport? Best place to park there?
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