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Re: Republicans breaking with Trump's coup attempt
« Reply #200 on: January 13, 2021, 09:13:41 PM »
He is explicitly talking about the protests outside the Capitolhttps://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/11/us/politics/republicans-capitol-riot.html
He says outside, it could mean outside the Capitol, it could mean outside the chambers, and it could be simply a cover for the actual plan to breach. It’s grounds for an investigation into their complicity, which I’m sure will happen.

Also, even outside the Capitol roaring at congressmen ‘To put maximum pressure’ on them to do something illegal is textbook sedition. I should remind you there are credible allegations Republicans voted against impeachment today out of fear for their families lives.

Ali Alexander himself called Jan 6 the ‘first day of the rebellion’

https://twitter.com/karoli/status/1348144087778541572?s=21


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Re: Republicans breaking with Trump's coup attempt
« Reply #201 on: January 14, 2021, 12:16:17 AM »
How does the fact that Trump supporters toured the capitol building (at a time when thousands of them were in town) show premeditation?
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1349446721718378506?s=21

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Re: Republicans breaking with Trump's coup attempt
« Reply #202 on: January 14, 2021, 12:22:46 AM »
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1349446721718378506?s=21

Right, and we should take seriously the "suspicion" of those who believe that anyone who voted for Trump is a terrorist...

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Re: Republicans breaking with Trump's coup attempt
« Reply #203 on: January 14, 2021, 12:27:40 AM »
Right, and we should take seriously the "suspicion" of those who believe that anyone who voted for Trump is a terrorist...
Are you saying all democratic house members believe anyone who voted T is a terrorist and their suspicions thus not to be taken seriously or did I misunderstand?
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Re: Republicans breaking with Trump's coup attempt
« Reply #204 on: January 14, 2021, 12:46:05 AM »
Are you saying all democratic house members believe anyone who voted T is a terrorist and their suspicions thus not to be taken seriously or did I misunderstand?
let the relevant security offices examine.
The public pronouncements mean less then the impeachment attempt

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Re: Republicans breaking with Trump's coup attempt
« Reply #205 on: January 14, 2021, 01:01:28 AM »
let the relevant security offices examine.
Agreed.
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Re: Republicans breaking with Trump's coup attempt
« Reply #206 on: January 14, 2021, 09:53:54 AM »
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1349446721718378506?s=21
Until you have evidence that a member of congress gave a tour of the building knowing that it would be used to scope out for the next day, this is nothing more than grandstanding. If you have evidence that a member of congress allowed a tour knowing they intended to storm the building, that member should face consequences.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Republicans breaking with Trump's coup attempt
« Reply #207 on: January 25, 2021, 01:21:47 AM »
Until you have evidence that a member of congress gave a tour of the building knowing that it would be used to scope out for the next day, this is nothing more than grandstanding. If you have evidence that a member of congress allowed a tour knowing they intended to storm the building, that member should face consequences.
Lauren Boebert published a statement on her Twitter account explicitly denying bringing any group/tour into the Capitol between Jan 3 and 6 other than her Mom. There is at least one credible witness (elected congressman) who stated she is lying and did bring a group. It doesn't prove she knew of an intent to storm the building, but כל האומר לא לוויתי כאומר לא פרעתי and הוחזק כפרן.

Hopefully a thorough investigation will shed more light, והצדיקו את הצדיק והרשיעו את הרשע
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Re: Republicans breaking with Trump's coup attempt
« Reply #208 on: January 25, 2021, 07:51:53 AM »
Lauren Boebert published a statement on her Twitter account explicitly denying bringing any group/tour into the Capitol between Jan 3 and 6 other than her Mom. There is at least one credible witness (elected congressman) who stated she is lying and did bring a group. It doesn't prove she knew of an intent to storm the building, but כל האומר לא לוויתי כאומר לא פרעתי and הוחזק כפרן.

Hopefully a thorough investigation will shed more light, והצדיקו את הצדיק והרשיעו את הרשע

So this is what we’ll be hearing for the next four years as a distraction from whatever’s actually going on now?
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Re: Republicans breaking with Trump's coup attempt
« Reply #209 on: January 25, 2021, 02:44:51 PM »
Lauren Boebert published a statement on her Twitter account explicitly denying bringing any group/tour into the Capitol between Jan 3 and 6 other than her Mom. There is at least one credible witness (elected congressman) who stated she is lying and did bring a group. It doesn't prove she knew of an intent to storm the building, but כל האומר לא לוויתי כאומר לא פרעתי and הוחזק כפרן.

Hopefully a thorough investigation will shed more light, והצדיקו את הצדיק והרשיעו את הרשע
Can I just say being an elected congressman takes away some credibility, doesn't add any. I'd much faster trust some random person than a politician.

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Re: Republicans breaking with Trump's coup attempt
« Reply #210 on: January 25, 2021, 02:46:00 PM »
Can I just say being an elected congressman takes away some credibility, doesn't add any. I'd much faster trust some random person than a politician.
They are both congresspeople

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Re: Republicans breaking with Trump's coup attempt
« Reply #211 on: January 25, 2021, 02:53:19 PM »
They are both congresspeople
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Re: Republicans breaking with Trump's coup attempt
« Reply #212 on: January 25, 2021, 04:16:31 PM »
So it looks better for Trump.
It had  nothing to do with his speech.
But let’s impeach first and then look into it 🙄

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Re: Republicans breaking with Trump's coup attempt
« Reply #213 on: January 25, 2021, 04:32:25 PM »
So this is what we’ll be hearing for the next four years as a distraction from whatever’s actually going on now?
The fact that it may be used as a distraction isn’t a reason to neglect justice. When the Iron Curtain fell, the Russians didn’t prosecute the old guard to foster unity and shortly thereafter the KGB/Putin came back into power. Chavez & Hitler were ousted and ostracized before they came back and took/won power.

Of course that doesn’t mean the justice shouldn’t be fair.
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Re: Republicans breaking with Trump's coup attempt
« Reply #216 on: March 08, 2021, 01:42:15 PM »
I don't know where it was discussed, but there were those who those here who suggested it was crazy to equate the BLM riots and the Capitol riot. I think this is relevant -

https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/February2021_HHP_Topline_RV.pdf
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Which do you find more concerning -- the violence that occurred in American cities over the summer of 2020 or the incident at the US Capitol on January 6th?

Violence in American cities                   977    55% 
Incident at the US Capitol on Jan 6th  801    45%

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Re: Republicans breaking with Trump's coup attempt
« Reply #217 on: March 15, 2021, 09:48:16 PM »
And besides, no one brought a gun into the Capitol at BLM protests!!!!!

Fact Check: None of the rioters brought guns into the Capitol on Jan 6.

(Came across this when I was looking for the now debunked story claiming that Trump pressured the GA SOS to manufacture votes for him)

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Re: Republicans breaking with Trump's coup attempt
« Reply #218 on: March 15, 2021, 10:17:24 PM »
Fact Check: None of the rioters brought guns into the Capitol on Jan 6.
Are you referring to what the FBI woman said to the senate committee?
(Came across this when I was looking for the now debunked story claiming that Trump pressured the GA SOS to manufacture votes for him)
Do tell - what was the story and what was debunked?

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Re: Republicans breaking with Trump's coup attempt
« Reply #219 on: March 16, 2021, 12:22:04 AM »
Do tell - what was the story and what was debunked?

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/media-misquoted-trump-phone-call-georgia-investigator

I would be interested to hear what her justification for deleting the recording is. (It was found in the recycle bin on her computer.)