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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #660 on: November 25, 2020, 09:26:06 PM »
In a way it’s more dangerous when he says it because of the amount of people who seem to adore him.
That's an interesting comment.  :)
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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #661 on: November 25, 2020, 09:27:45 PM »
That's an interesting comment.  :)
I know, right ?

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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #662 on: November 25, 2020, 09:54:27 PM »
I really don’t care what caused him to say it, the fact is he’s used some of the same language that the biggest antisemites use. If it’s considered hate speech when they say it I consider it hate speech when he says it. Feel free to disagree
In a way it’s more dangerous when he says it because of the amount of people who seem to adore him.

I didn't defend anything he said or did. I disputed a statement that
Cuomo hating the Jews is an established fact.

Now, if you think the things he says are so dangerous and hold so much power, why are you ok with actions that seem to provoke those statements? Seems counterintuitive.

ETA: also, when someone says things out of anger, does that define who he is at his core?
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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #663 on: November 25, 2020, 09:55:56 PM »
Wow this thread is still pumping weeks after sheva brochos incredible
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« Reply #664 on: November 25, 2020, 09:57:02 PM »
Wow this thread is still pumping weeks after sheva brochos incredible

At this point, the conversation has little to do with the actual wedding.
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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #665 on: November 25, 2020, 10:02:14 PM »
Now, if you think the things he says are so dangerous and hold so much power, why are you ok with actions that seem to provoke those statements?
Maybe show me where I said this. But nothing anyone did gives him any excuse whatsoever to say the things he’s so publicly said. He’s made Duke proud.

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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #666 on: November 25, 2020, 10:03:57 PM »
Wow this thread is still pumping weeks after sheva brochos incredible
It first began a week after sheva berachos ended.

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« Reply #667 on: November 25, 2020, 10:05:42 PM »
Maybe show me where I said this.
In a way it’s more dangerous when he says it because of the amount of people who seem to adore him.

But nothing anyone did gives him any excuse whatsoever to say the things he’s so publicly said. He’s made Duke proud.

No one is excusing it. I want to know why you're ok with provoking it.
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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #668 on: November 25, 2020, 10:08:09 PM »
I want to know why you're ok with provoking it.
Where was I ok with provoking it ?

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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #671 on: November 25, 2020, 10:26:47 PM »
Where was I ok with provoking it ?

You're right. You posted some sarcastic and satirical things that I assumed (incorrectly) showed an opinion you never actually stated.

Personally, and I know this is unpopular, I have a bigger problem with kids poking a dog with a stick than a dog reacting the way a dog does.
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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #672 on: November 25, 2020, 10:30:40 PM »
I said when Cuomo says things on TV to the masses it can be far more dangerous then when Duke or Farrakhan say it. Everyone knows them for the dregs they are.
Meanwhile he’s out there getting an award.

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« Reply #673 on: November 25, 2020, 10:32:43 PM »
I said when Cuomo says things on TV to the masses it can be far more dangerous then when Duke or Farrakhan say it. Everyone knows them for the dregs they are.
Meanwhile he’s out there getting an award.

I think Farrakhan is infinitely more dangerous than Cuomo, but that's neither here nor there.
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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #674 on: November 25, 2020, 11:25:05 PM »
Personally, and I know this is unpopular, I have a bigger problem with kids poking a dog with a stick than a dog reacting the way a dog does.

Except the "dog" is the sitting governor of New York State.

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« Reply #675 on: November 25, 2020, 11:30:01 PM »
Except the "dog" is the sitting governor of New York State.

Not the first, nor the last.
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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #676 on: November 25, 2020, 11:34:22 PM »
Not the first, nor the last.

You're belittling his egregious behavior by blaming it on other egregious behavior. That's not how a lawmaker should be judged

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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #677 on: November 25, 2020, 11:38:18 PM »
That's an interesting comment.  :)

Yup. Does it matter if, say, a president is racist or not if he says and does racist things? I don't know if Cuomo harbors any more anti-Semitism in his heart than the standard biases people have. But what he has said and done over the past few months has been horrifically anti Semitic.

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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #678 on: November 25, 2020, 11:41:57 PM »
Dont forget cuomo was fighting the parties in the hamptons all summer and issuing fines etc.

But he wasn't using anti-semetic language or the like against them on national TV.

When did this established fact start. It seems with this thread.
No in the Czar Cuomo thread. (Sorry can't figure out how to do a hyperlink.)

ETA: also, when someone says things out of anger, does that define who he is at his core?

It was definitely not always and consistently out of anger. Plenty of times it was just because that's what he felt like saying at the moment because it fit his narrative.

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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #679 on: November 25, 2020, 11:49:19 PM »
I'm sure Erlich would claim it is a well established fact most posters here hate Chassidim... He probably did already somewhere in this thread.

He did, but not most, all.

I would appreciate though if you wouldn't equate when real anti-semetic language is used, to completely falsely perceived hatred. I believe we've already "established" (pun intended 😉) that there are no chossid haters here, at least not what I've seen.
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