Topic Wiki

Team A:

Team B:

To which Teams C & D responded with nuance and thoughtful debate:



Author Topic: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid  (Read 14674 times)

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 58769
  • Total likes: 6218
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA Global Services, AA Lifetime Plat, DL Dirt, SPG Plat, Hyatt Diamond, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, Hilton Diamond, Priority Club Plat, Avis Chairman, National EE, Hertz PC
Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #375 on: November 23, 2020, 02:31:16 PM »
Yea, the first thought that came to mind was an understanding of the common ground between NK and the Palis. I had never looked at it from that angle before.
Same. Very interesting and I do wonder if it's from the same playbook for the same reasons.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline Lurker

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jul 2019
  • Posts: 3460
  • Total likes: 2896
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: As always, silence is NOT an admission of agreement on DDF. It just means that people lack the stamina to keep on arguing with made up "facts", illogical arguments, deceiving statements, nasty and degrading comments, and fuzzy math. - @yelped
Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #376 on: November 23, 2020, 02:32:24 PM »
I am not here to feed you with food for thought
But if someone that isn't familiar and reading this thread ,and I am sure some people really believe here , as ot sounds here that there are a few hundered chasidim are sick with covid in hospitals and dozens of chasidim are dying weekly

And again I am still ok with saying number of he will back up his wise statement brushing the chasidim that thier percentage are higher

He already said he made it up. Completely from his boich. Now your turn. Where are the numbers you said you'd give us?
When you find yourself agreeing with me more often than not, it's time for a cheshbon hanefesh.

Offline Yehuda57

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jan 2014
  • Posts: 2393
  • Total likes: 4589
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 6
    • View Profile
  • Location: Brooklyn
Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #377 on: November 23, 2020, 02:33:47 PM »
In this thread every chusid will feel hated, calling name and slurs on thousands of chasidim from other frum yidden is very sad

It's very un-Chossid like to consider yourself the only one worthy of the title Chossid.
Quote from: ExGingi
Yehuda57 needs to spew a certain amount of sarcasm in order to survive through the day.

Offline erlich

  • Dansdeals Gold Elite
  • ***
  • Join Date: Oct 2019
  • Posts: 203
  • Total likes: 26
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #378 on: November 23, 2020, 02:34:21 PM »
Reb Yid, let's set the record straight. 

I believe there are plenty of chassidim here (some join the conversation and some are just quiet) and we don't feel "hated" (I hope I'm right, others can CIIW).  We might not agree with everything that the others say and we can argue (sometimes very forcefully) but hated we don't feel.

And the only one that I saw calling names and slurs on other people here was unfortunately you - so for a person who comes here preaching ahavas yisroel and to live and let live that is not the proper way to do it.
Writing that chasidim kill people is what ? A compliment?
That thousands of chasidim are doing against the רצון השם and they should tshuva is what?
That their rabbis is going against the torah is what?
Writing that chasidim are morons is what?

You may believe so it's all true,
And I totally don't have a issue with it,just admit that you don't like this chasidim and when in matter of fact you don't like (hate them) them in general


Offline Lurker

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jul 2019
  • Posts: 3460
  • Total likes: 2896
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: As always, silence is NOT an admission of agreement on DDF. It just means that people lack the stamina to keep on arguing with made up "facts", illogical arguments, deceiving statements, nasty and degrading comments, and fuzzy math. - @yelped
Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #379 on: November 23, 2020, 02:34:34 PM »
Exactly me with other tens of thousands chasidim need help because other yidden have a hate against them

Which chassidim, exactly? Satmar? Skver? Bobov? Lubavitch? Karlin? Who is doing the hating and who is being hated?
When you find yourself agreeing with me more often than not, it's time for a cheshbon hanefesh.

Offline iluv2travel

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jul 2019
  • Posts: 1184
  • Total likes: 286
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #380 on: November 23, 2020, 02:35:11 PM »
I am not here to feed you with food for thought
But if someone that isn't familiar and reading this thread ,and I am sure some people really believe here , as ot sounds here that there are a few hundered chasidim are sick with covid in hospitals and dozens of chasidim are dying weekly

And again I am still ok with saying number of he will back up his wise statement brushing the chasidim that thier percentage are higher

I believe he only said it to spite you because you weren't backing up your numbers - he felt that if you can say what you want then he can say what he wants too.

Nobody here thinks that there are hundreds of chassidim sick or dozens dying weekly.  We all know the truth.

The big problem here was the chillul hashem and we already established that the article was a mistake and hopefully whoever needed to learn from this (very bad) mistake did so and can make sure it doesn't happen again.

Offline iluv2travel

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jul 2019
  • Posts: 1184
  • Total likes: 286
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #381 on: November 23, 2020, 02:36:13 PM »
Yea, the first thought that came to mind was an understanding of the common ground between NK and the Palis. I had never looked at it from that angle before.

I think I got the NK part, but can you please enlighten me about Palis?

Offline chevron

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Dec 2013
  • Posts: 2054
  • Total likes: 275
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
    • View Profile
Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #382 on: November 23, 2020, 02:37:48 PM »
I am not here to feed you with food for thought
But if someone that isn't familiar and reading this thread ,and I am sure some people really believe here , as ot sounds here that there are a few hundered chasidim are sick with covid in hospitals and dozens of chasidim are dying weekly

And again I am still ok with saying number of he will back up his wise statement brushing the chasidim that thier percentage are higher

Viscerally rejoinders will not get you far in the facts of life. .

Arguments such as "we had a wedding for 7000 and no one got sick... So you're all anti semites" is a bit old.

You're like the guy who doesn't want to pay the bus fair and the driver kicks him off he howl's "anti semites"

There's ZERO co-relation to the arguments here..

We have moved way beyond those arguments.

#1 it's a chilul hashem
#2 people get sick and die

#3.. this one is big.. put your thinking kapple on for this;
We have a religion v'nishmartem.. daily I'm bombarded with pleas "kol hamikayem nefesh achas"

Saying that satmar bikur cholim is incredible then holding a wedding for 7000 is illogical.

I didn't even bash anyone, maybe In may I would have. I'm beyond that.

I just find it astonishing that Judaism has attained a Darwin like "survival of the fittest" mentality.

Vus epes, a few will die, mesiras nefesh! Big wedding! Ish Baal yedar!

Offline erlich

  • Dansdeals Gold Elite
  • ***
  • Join Date: Oct 2019
  • Posts: 203
  • Total likes: 26
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #383 on: November 23, 2020, 02:37:53 PM »
He already said he made it up. Completely from his boich. Now your turn. Where are the numbers you said you'd give us?
He did not said that or maybe I missed it
Either way i am not here to give you guys food for thought,my only point is that you guys hate chasidim in general!
But if he would back up his bold statement i would still say my numbers, but if not i won't
But b"h its mamesh nothing
I am sure all of you know hatzolah members and you can ask them or other people involved
And i volunteer for a organization that is a big help for covid , helping chasidim and non chasidim from all kind of different neighborhoods , and the hospitalazion rate by non chasidim are much much higher then chasidim b"h

Offline yungermanchik

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Gold Elite
  • ******
  • Join Date: Nov 2018
  • Posts: 937
  • Total likes: 602
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: Previous Signatures: If you chapped hana'ah from a post, like it; You think you know the answers and things are the way they seem.. it just ain't so -The Rebbe from Lublin-
Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #384 on: November 23, 2020, 02:38:12 PM »
Writing that chasidim kill people is what ? A compliment?
That thousands of chasidim are doing against the רצון השם and they should tshuva is what?
That their rabbis is going against the torah is what?
Writing that chasidim are morons is what?

You may believe so it's all true,
And I totally don't have a issue with it,just admit that you don't like this chasidim and when in matter of fact you don't like (hate them) them in general
STOP! There definitely are people on these forums that look at chasidim (and yeshivaliet) with disdain, but to equate everyone who disagrees with you about something, with them is simply not ERLICH.
Small people talk about other people.
Average people talk about things
BIG PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IDEAS.

Offline erlich

  • Dansdeals Gold Elite
  • ***
  • Join Date: Oct 2019
  • Posts: 203
  • Total likes: 26
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #385 on: November 23, 2020, 02:38:14 PM »
Which chassidim, exactly? Satmar? Skver? Bobov? Lubavitch? Karlin? Who is doing the hating and who is being hated?
Figure it out yourself buddy

Offline erlich

  • Dansdeals Gold Elite
  • ***
  • Join Date: Oct 2019
  • Posts: 203
  • Total likes: 26
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #386 on: November 23, 2020, 02:39:57 PM »
STOP! There definitely are people on these forums that look at chasidim (and yeshivaliet) with disdain, but to equate everyone who disagrees with you about something, with them is simply not ERLICH.
I don't agree or disagree here or have an opinion at all
Look back all my comments
I am only stating admit that these same people have always issues with chasidim. Now ,then and in the future , before or after covid , has nothing to do with covid

Offline chevron

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Dec 2013
  • Posts: 2054
  • Total likes: 275
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
    • View Profile
Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #387 on: November 23, 2020, 02:42:35 PM »
Writing that chasidim kill people is what ? A compliment?
That thousands of chasidim are doing against the רצון השם and they should tshuva is what?
That their rabbis is going against the torah is what?
Writing that chasidim are morons is what?

You may believe so it's all true,
And I totally don't have a issue with it,just admit that you don't like this chasidim and when in matter of fact you don't like (hate them) them in general

How is going to a wedding of 7000 the ratzon hashem?!?

Regarding the Rebbe's judgement to make the wedding, that's not my discussion.

I doubt very much that the Rebbe instructed them to post a taunting article..


Offline CountValentine

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Mar 2013
  • Posts: 9075
  • Total likes: 2445
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips -1
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
  • Location: Poland - Exiled
  • Programs: DAOTYA, DDF Level 3, 5K Lounge
Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #388 on: November 23, 2020, 02:42:41 PM »
Lets get one thing straight. There is only one victim on DDF and it is not erlich!!!  >:( >:( >:(
You're so far up Trump's a** you can see Giuliani's feet.  HT Baruch

Offline yelped

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Mar 2015
  • Posts: 5965
  • Total likes: 898
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 17
    • View Profile
Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #389 on: November 23, 2020, 02:43:15 PM »
@erlich Do I hate Chassidim?