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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #495 on: November 23, 2020, 08:59:38 PM »
It's more of an event for the chassidus, rather than just a wedding. In their eyes, it would be like limiting the amount of people in shul for simchas Torah. Additionally, it doesn't create any pressure for those who aren't rebbe's.
Better, still not fully satisfied, though.
In addition, and this may be hard to understand for non chassidim, this event is one of their only outlets of entertainment. (Even without Covid) most chasidim don't attend sporting events or movies. So these weddings something they really look forward to and are willing to make an exception for their rebbe.

I'm not justifying anything, only trying my best to explain. And having seen this argument play out elsewhere I know there will still be some or even many who begrudge these large scale weddings and I understand that.
I get that.
The Rebbe belongs to the chassidim, and therefore the Rebbe's simcha is not a personal one, but a communal one. Therefore, the wedding isn't a "wedding" per se, but is to be celebrated more in line with other yomei d'pagra, as a community event.

(Way outta my league here. Just taking shots in the dark.)
Yeah, ok. Somehow most Chassidim themselves seem to think of it as a Rebbella wanting to feel good about making a "good" shidduch. I guess it has *potential* to be a community event, but that depends on how *real* the Rebbe is.

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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #496 on: November 23, 2020, 08:59:57 PM »
Especially because the feeling people get is that he's ratting them out due to a personal vendetta and not because of any COVID related concerns.
Why he ratted them out does not matter. The egregious ( HT @Dan ) behavior is the issue.
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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #497 on: November 23, 2020, 09:01:14 PM »
Yeah, ok. Somehow most Chassidim themselves seem to think of it as a Rebbella wanting to feel good about making a "good" shidduch. I guess it has *potential* to be a community event, but that depends on how *real* the Rebbe is.

If there's a question about how "real" the Rebbe is, then weddings aren't your issue here....
When you find yourself agreeing with me more often than not, it's time for a cheshbon hanefesh.

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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #498 on: November 23, 2020, 09:01:22 PM »
I am fine with you edit. Still doesn't change anything.

While none of us would ever condone robbing banks we would probably disdain someone that rats out his brother for personal reasons. Calling out the brother in no way implies the bank robbery was ok. There are some on this thread that are more bothered by one of these acts than the other.

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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #499 on: November 23, 2020, 09:02:33 PM »
I'm personally more bothered by the actual wedding. Just explaining what's being said.

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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #500 on: November 23, 2020, 09:03:56 PM »
If there's a question about how "real" the Rebbe is, then weddings aren't your issue here....
Lol.

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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #501 on: November 23, 2020, 09:05:25 PM »
I'm personally more bothered by the actual wedding. Just explaining what's being said.
I understand what is being said. I also understand why.
What if Cuomo had a weeding for his child with 7k attendees. This thread would light up like a Christmas tree.  :)
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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #502 on: November 23, 2020, 09:06:46 PM »
Is it murder during a war, or in self-defense? How much of Torah is dedicated to figuring out what stealing really is, depending on the circumstances? Context is everything.

I was responding based on his analogy of randomly robbing 100 banks and when he asked if murder is better I took the assumption of a guy pulling a gun and randomly shooting people. Both of which are always illegal and immoral in my book.

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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #503 on: November 23, 2020, 09:07:39 PM »
If there's a question about how "real" the Rebbe is, then weddings aren't your issue here....

The famous (ly censored) quote about deserving a bullet in the head...

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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #504 on: November 23, 2020, 09:08:39 PM »
In addition, and this may be hard to understand for non chassidim, this event is one of their only outlets of entertainment. (Even without Covid) most chasidim don't attend sporting events or movies. So these weddings something they really look forward to and are willing to make an exception for their rebbe.

I'm not justifying anything, only trying my best to explain. And having seen this argument play out elsewhere I know there will still be some or even many who begrudge these large scale weddings and I understand that.

We need rebbishe tv

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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #505 on: November 23, 2020, 09:09:13 PM »
The famous (ly censored) quote about deserving a bullet in the head...
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We need rebbishe tv
We've got close to that. :)

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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #506 on: November 23, 2020, 09:10:45 PM »
I understand what is being said. I also understand why.
What if Cuomo had a weeding for his child with 7k attendees. This thread would light up like a Christmas tree.  :)

It already did  ;D.  Go back a few pages to when erlich was in town.

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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #507 on: November 23, 2020, 09:11:41 PM »
It already did  ;D.  Go back a few pages to when erlich was in town.
I seen that.
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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #508 on: November 23, 2020, 09:13:49 PM »
We've got close to that. :)

And for those who need another outlet they can come read this and other threads on DDF.

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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #509 on: November 23, 2020, 09:17:31 PM »
I seen that.

Ok great. So Cuomo can have a 10k wedding and nobody here would care if he let everyone else do the same.