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Re: Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #580 on: November 24, 2020, 01:48:47 PM »
seriously - for the sake of "science" & "data" - can we get a few "scientists" to come to our areas and check out - no masks, no SD, shuls open regular since Shuvos, yet life is normal and no "pandemic level" hospitalizations or deaths.

In the big chasidish courts - Satmar/Bobov/Pupa/Visnitz/Skwere/Belz (and all others) Tishrei was regular and no major hospitalizations or deaths (like we had before Pesach).

The Satmar wedding that was "shut down" 2 weeks ago? Happened in secret that night. How many Visnitz/Skwere and other rebbish weddings happened in the past few months? how many non-rebbish weddings are nightly? all halls are full without any masks (besides the waiters) and the only thing reminding you thats something is going on is that you have to enter thru a side door.

And we can all agree COVID is not soooo deadly - simply look at the numbers anywhere besides NY - and the cost of shutting down the economy is causing way more damage

Why did the only Satmar weddings hit the news (and not the other chasidish weddings)? Simply because once a Belz'er - you will always hate Satmar... (והמבין יבין)

I don't think it's deniable that there was a second wave Yomim Noraim time, but you're right that it's difficult to blame it on Yomim Noraim. There was not an ounce of compliance for the months beforehand, and extremely extensive mingling on an ongoing basis. There have not been many cases in the past month, and things are back to normal. The herd immunity factor is extremely difficult to ignore. The first people to jump blindly off the cliff were still 100% wrong to do it, but at this point, it's fair to say that it's been pretty conclusively proven that there is a safety net below to a degree.

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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #581 on: November 24, 2020, 01:59:13 PM »
Why did the only Satmar weddings hit the news (and not the other chasidish weddings)? Simply because once a Belz'er - you will always hate Satmar... (והמבין יבין)
Did other Chasidic courts write about their 7,000 person weddings in their newspapers?
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Re: Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #582 on: November 24, 2020, 01:59:13 PM »
the only thing reminding you thats something is going on is that you have to enter thru a side door.

Mrs. Hendel Lezer ah

https://boropark24.com/news/bde-mrs-hendel-lezer-a-h
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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #583 on: November 24, 2020, 02:04:02 PM »

There have been others as well. Just because it's not on the same scale as April....

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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #584 on: November 24, 2020, 02:06:53 PM »
There have been others as well. Just because it's not on the same scale as April....

I'm aware. I wasn't about to post the whole list. We shouldn't need piles of bodies in the streets as a visible reminder that Covid isn't cancelled yet.
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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #585 on: November 24, 2020, 02:11:02 PM »
Did other Chasidic courts write about their 7,000 person weddings in their newspapers?

They dont have their own newspapers, but they dont hide it

The post doesnt read the Satmar newspapers, it's the people that pass on the msg

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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #586 on: November 24, 2020, 02:13:11 PM »

I'm aware. I wasn't about to post the whole list. We shouldn't need piles of bodies in the streets as a visible reminder that Covid isn't cancelled yet.

You basiclly answered yourself - where is the pile on the streets if life is going on without any precautions since June/July??
After Purim it was within 2 weeks - now its month already. And again & again - see the death rate worldwide beside NY


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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #587 on: November 24, 2020, 02:27:19 PM »
You basiclly answered yourself - where is the pile on the streets if life is going on without any precautions since June/July??
After Purim it was within 2 weeks - now its month already. And again & again - see the death rate worldwide beside NY

Why do you need piles of bodies in the streets?
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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #588 on: November 24, 2020, 02:37:38 PM »
Why do you need piles of bodies in the streets?

Not saying we need - but who said we would?

come see all of this is bluff, the virus works its own way and lockdowns, shutdowns, masks, SD, outdoor blah blah doesn't make a difference

I say we stop driving till we bring down the accidents

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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #589 on: November 24, 2020, 02:39:57 PM »
Why do you need piles of bodies in the streets?

Why did some of the staunchest mask enforcing rabbis stop enforcing, and start comingling with the masses?
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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #590 on: November 24, 2020, 02:43:04 PM »
Not saying we need - but who said we would?

come see all of this is bluff, the virus works its own way and lockdowns, shutdowns, masks, SD, outdoor blah blah doesn't make a difference

I say we stop driving till we bring down the accidents

I don't know. Who said we would see bodies piled in the streets? I mean, we already did in April, and other places like El Paso are seeing it now, but I don't know why that's what it takes for us to remember there's a deadly pandemic going on.
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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #591 on: November 24, 2020, 02:43:34 PM »
Why did some of the staunchest mask enforcing rabbis stop enforcing, and start comingling with the masses?

Names? Context?
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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #592 on: November 24, 2020, 03:01:36 PM »

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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #593 on: November 24, 2020, 03:02:10 PM »
They dont have their own newspapers, but they dont hide it

The post doesnt read the Satmar newspapers, it's the people that pass on the msg
Very true, but I don't think that simply reporting on it would have drawn the attention. No shortage of reports and photos of all these events in countless publications and websites. It's the gloating part of how they outwitted the media and government what has made that article NYPost worthy.
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Re: Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #594 on: November 24, 2020, 03:07:38 PM »
+10000000000000000000000000000

But they won't get any ""scientists" to come to our areas and check out " becuase it doesn't fit the narative.

You can add another few zeros for me 🙂.


I was thinking the same thing about Mos(t)er but I would hope that in general the hate has subsided and is a thing of the past.

It has. I have proof in my own family.

They dont have their own newspapers, but they dont hide it

The post doesnt read the Satmar newspapers, it's the people that pass on the msg

They (i.e. Yiddish newspaper) shouldn't give them what to pass on.

Much better for everyone that way.

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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #595 on: November 24, 2020, 03:16:40 PM »
You do realize that this guy is an Israeli. Do you?
Yes but what does that mean?
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Re: Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #596 on: November 24, 2020, 03:25:49 PM »

In the big chasidish courts - Satmar/Bobov/Pupa/Visnitz/Skwere/Belz (and all others) Tishrei was regular and no major hospitalizations or deaths (like we had before Pesach).


And the same with the 'Cuomo Cluster Zones', all Chasidish schools and shuls were open and the numbers went down.

So how would you expect for people to derange there lifestyle because of the governments regulations, when we see first hand that we don't lose anything from continuing with our regular lifestyle?
If it benefits even just one fellow DDFer, its worth posting it.

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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #597 on: November 24, 2020, 03:29:37 PM »
Yes but what does that mean?

Are you familiar with the slogan "It's not just an airline, it's Israel"?

There's a DDF thread (at least one) about that.

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Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
« Reply #598 on: November 24, 2020, 03:36:34 PM »
Are you familiar with the slogan "It's not just an airline, it's Israel"?

There's a DDF thread (at least one) about that.

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So the 90% claim is useless?
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Re: Re: Czar Cuomo
« Reply #599 on: November 24, 2020, 03:59:39 PM »
And the same with the 'Cuomo Cluster Zones', all Chasidish schools and shuls were open and the numbers went down.

So how would you expect for people to derange there lifestyle because of the governments regulations, when we see first hand that we don't lose anything from continuing with our regular lifestyle?

A million percent. But we don't need to shove it in the face of the government and אומות העולם.

We have nothing to lose and everything to gain by doing it quietly.