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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #120 on: January 12, 2021, 05:09:25 PM »
Possibly, some benefit, but not enough to warrant taking a slot that would be taken by a higher-risk person.  go to each of the various websites and reload every so often until a cancelation causes a slot to open up and quickly sign up.

They only use 27% of the vaccines they have in the state so I'm not too worried about that...

(of course, I am getting it in a legal way)

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #121 on: January 12, 2021, 05:12:45 PM »
Yes stronger and longer lasting protection, aside from access benefits to hotels and countries etc and lack of quarantine obligations

Can you please link to a study/doctor who says this with "certainty" (meaning not just a "maybe").

Regarding quarantine, hotels, countries, I could not find any country or hotel etc which makes exception for vaccinated peole. can you please link to that?

Thank you.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #122 on: January 12, 2021, 05:25:41 PM »
They only use 27% of the vaccines they have in the state so I'm not too worried about that...

(of course, I am getting it in a legal way)
It's now close to 50%. It took a few weeks, but they're finally figuring it out.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #123 on: January 12, 2021, 05:29:18 PM »
It's now close to 50%. It took a few weeks, but they're finally figuring it out.
Does 50% mean they left the other 50% for second doses or it’s 25+25
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #124 on: January 12, 2021, 06:37:31 PM »
Does 50% mean they left the other 50% for second doses or it’s 25+25

No it means they used 50% of what they received. States weren't receiving the 2nd dose until 3/4 weeks after the first.

Now that they've opened public vaccine sites they'll use their allocation fast 

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #125 on: January 12, 2021, 07:32:37 PM »
They only use 27% of the vaccines they have in the state so I'm not too worried about that...

(of course, I am getting it in a legal way)
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #127 on: January 12, 2021, 09:07:58 PM »
So that would jive with this:
Yup, but that's an understatement. @biobook is a genius.

 
No it means they used 50% of what they received. States weren't receiving the 2nd dose until 3/4 weeks after the first.

Now that they've opened public vaccine sites they'll use their allocation fast 
Ah, got it.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #128 on: January 12, 2021, 09:30:55 PM »
So that would jive with this:
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biobook on Today at 02:20:54 PM
The group in Israel is all over 60 - perhaps older people take longer to produce immune response than younger group studied by Pfizer.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #129 on: January 22, 2021, 12:39:00 PM »
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #130 on: January 22, 2021, 12:42:55 PM »

Same data as this:


Or another study confirming the same numbers?

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #131 on: January 22, 2021, 01:31:29 PM »
Same data as this:

Or another study confirming the same numbers?
More analysis of the same study
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #132 on: January 22, 2021, 02:23:38 PM »
After 23 days there is a 60% drop

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #133 on: January 22, 2021, 02:39:29 PM »
After 23 days there is a 60% drop


This is nice, quick, and transparent data analysis. Can’t wait to see the data in a month, when we’ll have more clarity on 2nd dose results.

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #134 on: January 26, 2021, 02:59:44 AM »

Anybody who doesn’t get vaccinated is endangering other people’s lives, and even people who had Covid should get vaccinated.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #135 on: January 26, 2021, 04:04:00 PM »
Israeli MoH publishes new guidelines that allow vaccinating kids under 16 in cases with severe risk factors



ETA: Every child requires an individual authorization sign off from the MoH committee chairman.
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #136 on: January 26, 2021, 05:04:40 PM »
ETA: Every child requires an individual authorization sign off from the MoH committee chairman.

That’s because:
1. They’re at risk and it could be extra dangerous for them
2. The vaccine wasn’t proven safe in children in clinical trials

P.s. This is a bit of a tangent from the thread topic, typical for DDF

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #137 on: January 26, 2021, 05:06:58 PM »
P.s. This is a bit of a tangent from the thread topic, typical for DDF
I read the thread title to encompass general elements of the Pfizer Vaccine, as opposed to the others that are focus on the timeline and Israel
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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #138 on: January 26, 2021, 05:20:20 PM »
I read the thread title to encompass general elements of the Pfizer Vaccine, as opposed to the others that are focus on the timeline and Israel

And I read it to a narrower focus asking/discussing whether those who recovered from an infection need to get vaccinated

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Re: The Pfizer Vaccine and do people who had COVID already need the vaccine?
« Reply #139 on: January 31, 2021, 12:07:13 PM »
It appears R’ Yitzchok Scheiner got the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine more than 2 weeks ago.

My cousin got COVID just after getting his second dose, although it seems he was exposed around a week after his first dose.

R’ Mendel Slomowitz currently has COVID, around 2.5 weeks after his first dose (I think Moderna).
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